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Old 02-23-2007 | 06:06 AM
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that's a bad situation.. glad it worked out safely.
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Old 02-23-2007 | 07:08 AM
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saw the story air, it was on wednesday. He repeated a couple of times that he was declaring an emergency and that he needed to land on 16C or whatever it is regardless of the wind. He stated they had a fuel emergency , but none the less it was an emergency.
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Old 02-23-2007 | 07:52 AM
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I believe these are the actual recodings:
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2893887
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Old 02-23-2007 | 08:12 AM
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i would have told that controller that i was going to stick the nose of my 757 up his A$$........

old quote i heard from a DAL Captain : "Am I up here because your'e down there or is it the other way around?"
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Old 02-23-2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by A330Checkairman
"Am I up here because your'e down there or is it the other way around?"
That is a good. I'll have to remember that one.
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Old 02-23-2007 | 06:38 PM
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"We need to declare an emergency" were his exact words. Im amazed that on a forum for airline pilots we can't even all agree the controller screwed up. The captain declared an emergency and got dicked around. That should NEVER happen. Can we all agree on that?
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Old 02-23-2007 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SikPilot
"We need to declare an emergency" were his exact words. Im amazed that on a forum for airline pilots we can't even all agree the controller screwed up. The captain declared an emergency and got dicked around. That should NEVER happen. Can we all agree on that?
Absolutely. It seems pretty simple to me!!
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Old 02-23-2007 | 07:15 PM
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Like the man said... When a pilot declares an emergency the red sea parts.
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Old 02-23-2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SikPilot
"We need to declare an emergency" were his exact words. Im amazed that on a forum for airline pilots we can't even all agree the controller screwed up. The captain declared an emergency and got dicked around. That should NEVER happen. Can we all agree on that?
"We "need" to declare an emergency" and "We "are" declaring and emergency" are two different things. Did the Captain declare and emergency? I really don't know. Don't get me wrong, ATC should have dropped everything, but the verbage was not strong enough. You're right, SikPilot, this should never happen again.
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Old 02-23-2007 | 08:18 PM
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ERAUdude,

There is "minimum fuel" and "emergency fuel", and both are significantly different.

MEM_ATC

Originally Posted by ERAUdude
ATC does not actually treat low fuel as an emergency which is probably why they made him circle.
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