Selcall

I am confused. By what numbers or financial actuarial numbers does the NWA MEC present in its letter that gives support to their accusations that this merger will be detremental to the NWA pilots? I mean the cats out of the bag so since all types of accusations of one sided dealings with Delta management, hanging out the NWA pilots to dry, and all this other stuff that everyone else is talking about is all over this board and throughout crewrooms across America; then why not back it up with factual data? The reason why is they can't. If they had the numbers to counter the Delta information that letter would have been the most appropriate avenue to dispense with the pleasantries and really say "fight on".

All I saw in that letter was an emotional response that could be characterized as the type of a response I would see from a 7th grader for not getting an "A" on their school project.

Show the evidence or sit down and shut up NWA MEC.

Now that I am through venting I shall retire to my hermit hole.
Good luck to all.

hiflyer

Are you that dense? When CALPA modifies their contract, say scope clause, please make sure you call AWA and include them too. DALPA modified THEIR contract. In exchange, they asked for something in return. How difficult is it to understand?

When the NWA and DAL are merged, then their will be "joint" contract negotiated.

hiflyer

WHAT!!!!!! No MEC is "obligated" to work with another MEC or support their actions. Especially if it is leading to a dead end.

The deal would happen with or without. So, why not set the contract floor at a more favorable position for "joint" contract negotiations. By the way, NWALPA can join the process now and a new contract could be negotiated.

There will have to be a single contract to move forward for the company to function efficiently. Look to AAA/AWA at what can happen to synergies without a single contract.

NWA still has their contract, so what have they lost?

A320fumes

Based on their history and lack of unity, I'd agree. If that happens, you'll probably see 1,600 CAL new-hires siding with UAL. Hope these guys show some back-bone.....finally.

Scoop

I stopped responding to his posts and recommend every DAL pilot ignore this guy - all he does is agitate and try to stir discontent.
Scoop

tsquare

Yup... actually I think the CAL UAL guys are getting spooled up.. it'll be interesting to watch that play out.. Maybe it's time to be a lurker

Do Svedanya

757Driver

Boo-hoo. Funny how the only guys that agree with you are fellow Deltoids.

You should read the CAL board, they can't believe the nonsense your MEC has pulled off from a solitary contract to picketing your brothers in arms.

I guess it truly is all about me over there.

REAL Pilot

I have alot of good friends that are Delta, but I vividly remember the Eastern strike and all those striking ALPA pilots while Delta made money by the truckload in Atlanta. Eastern fought the good fight (for everyone's benefit) but fell on their spear and gave Atlanta up.

This IS NOT flamebait just a reminder of how MEC's historically operate.

Selcall

Yea...and I have not seen a d*mn thing that J. Pr8ter has done for me our my fellow pilots in the "Taking it Back" Campaign.

If Pr8ter is an indication of what you have to offer from the rank and file from the "Big and Bad" Continental then you can keep it. I am much better off with no promise of hope than I am a false sense of hope for prosperity that the "New Continental" Pilots preach about.

Hey, I got one for ya...why don't you push for your pilots to be considered employees with benefits from day one instead of that b.s. six month waiting period to be a real employee and then come back to us "Deltoids" and start trying to sling poo. Until then just sit down and shut up....You've been served amateur.

Tractor Bob

I'm not at DAL or NWA. Just a bored trash hauler in China. From what I have read and heard, the NWA MEC choice of arbitration over negotiation was a the only "sellout." They abrigated their responsibility to their members by not negotiating an equitable agreement with the DAL MEC on SLI. Its a negotiation, no one is going to get everything they want. Arbitration is not the answer or solution. Stating that they will aggresively block the merger is like standing in the path of a freight train, and esentially marginalizes the MEC's value in any fruther negotiation. Seems the NWA MEC are the ones selling out their own.

Just my observation. No dog in the fight or ill wishes for either group. TB