He works for CAL, I think. Anyway, you are right. It does seem as if he likes to stir things up. Might be a CAL management plant. You know, if he can create enough animosity between NWAPLA and DALPA then CAL might have a chance. Otherwise they are the possum in the road, and we (NW & DL) are the Mack truck.:cool:

ROTFLMAO:D

One big Mac truck, that is for sure. From what I have been reading from NWA & DAL road show recaps is that both realize this thing is happening and we have to move forward.

I'll be the first to bed a beer that we'll have a joint contract TA to vote on by Oct 31st. (That date has come up a couple times here at DAL so I might as well start there).

After all, most stuff has been agreed to already in previous negotiations.

Then the SLI goes to an arbitrator who we can all call an "idiot" for the next 20 years. :)

Flare,

I went to the MSP roadshow yesterday. It was still going strong at the 3 1/2 hour point when I had to catch a flight back to DFW. So, way too much stuff to post here. We are close on the SLI in terms of "process". Staffing formulas and stuff like that are at issue. The idea of a dymanic list seems to be accepted by both sides, so like I said close but still so far away.

Our merger guy who has been in on several arbitrations both here and at national advises against it.....way too many unknows, the least of which is the arbitrator himself. Great quote, the "arbitratiors who are available are the last ones you want".

Ferd

Ferd,

If a negotiated SLI is possible, I'm all for it. I guess I'm just trying to manage my own expectations with all of this. I don't think either side wants to lose control over the SLI process but is unfortunately been the case many many times.

It'd be nice if they can figure this whole thing out so we can move forward and have this new company pull ahead of the pack.

I second this, if we don't it could be a HUGE DISASTER. If we don't this agreed upon, it would be pointless to merge.

I wasn't trying to be incendiary. when I first read that last sentence I thought he ment you need to work with nwa but then I remembered hearing someone saying that deltas stance was to work with management so they wouldn't be left behind. it was as simple as that.

you are right though, I like to play devils advocate and try and see things from every side.

I don't say who I work for because I don't think that matters. I've called my airline out for it's own issues many times.

I would love to attend the road show but I doubt any airline would allow the other airlines in. I've read nwa's just the facts sheet. Have you guys put anything like that out? It would be interesting to see that side of it.

What were the growth issues?

I hope you are right that the nwa guys will reap, along with you guys, with the joint contract. I just hope it's sooner rather than later.

I wish I was CAL management. they made alot of money...

I wouldn't say that I like to stir things up. I do like to ask questions and sometimes things start swirling.

are you implying here that when you and nwa merge CAL doesn't have a chance? just remember that alot of people will swerve to miss the possum and run off the road. ;)

I can't believe I agree with you.

ILSHINPMP

I haven't seen the word "dork" used since the police academy movie...;)

Eric, I think you're a wannabe who likes to stir things up.

I have no clue what that means...

I don't know if an arbitrated list is necessarily a DISASTER, but it would just mean that we as pilots failed to solve our own problems...hopefully we can get together and do that.

Not necessarily the arbitrated list itself, but the lengthy process itself and everything in between. If we can go the expidited road, than that would be better. An single contract and SLI would be the absolute best.

No, only wussies and bleeding hearts swerve to miss the possum and end up in a wreck. Steely eyed southern boys and Nordic root warriors step on the gas and run that sucker over cause it makes good eatin! :cool:

what am I a wannabe of?

I laughed so hard I nearly peed my pants

ILSHINPMP

under that thinking why hasn't united or american crushed CAL yet?

management likes to talk about pricing power and then not follow through with it if one of the majors doesn't go along.

United has hairdressers that would be afraid to to run over anything.

AA guys would fight over which part of the animal to run over and miss it altogether. They would then pull off to the side of the road and whip each other over who caused the failed kill.

DAL guys are used to driving the Ram powered Hemi through swamp bogs so the possum won't be a problem.

NWA guys take a state holiday to celebrate hunting season and the Motor City Madman's "You've got to kill it before you can grill it" philosophy.

I'm sure you are being funny here, which I do appreciate. In the off chance that you believe this, can you explain how the Ram powered Hemi hasn't killed the airtran animal yet.

In the south, AirTran will always be remembered as "critter" and eatin' critters just doesn't cut it. A man needs a meal not an appetizer for dinner.

If oil stays above $100/barrel, you may find that the critter is in more liquidity danger than people think.

Thanks... dinn't know that one...

" She said she liked it better than the Pirates Of Penzance".

PPP:p