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coop77 04-30-2008 07:57 PM

Which combo would create the largest airline?
 
With all the mergers reportedly on the horizon, which combination would become the new #1 in terms of size?

Roper92 05-01-2008 04:58 AM

American and United

rickair7777 05-01-2008 05:55 AM

AA and anybody I think.

fdxmd11fo 05-01-2008 07:11 AM

A better question is, which combo would be able to make money?

coop77 05-01-2008 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 377181)
AA and anybody I think.

United/USAir, or Delta/NWA? Who will be BIGGER, and who is likely to make more money?

Spaceman Spliff 05-01-2008 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by coop77 (Post 377271)
United/USAir, or Delta/NWA? Who will be BIGGER....

that's the second time in this thread you've asked that question...what's with the size fixation? :rolleyes:

Does it really matter? And if it does, are you asking about size in terms of... employees? passengers carried? number of airplanes? operating revenue? bags of peanuts? :confused:

Lifeisgood 05-01-2008 08:23 AM

DAL + NWA + Air France/KLM. AF is eyeballing Alitalia or whatever MIGHT (hopefuly not) be left of them in the future.

As far as only US airlines combo you got to look ahead too and see how much they'd overlap and downsize. Which with our pilot brains is hard to do.

Trogdor 05-02-2008 12:28 PM

After the probable downsizing, it is anyone's guess.

Short Final 05-02-2008 05:54 PM

I'd have to agree with rickair7777.

American and anyone else. Who makes the most money? That's anyones guess. Now where's my crystal ball?



SF

newKnow 05-02-2008 10:24 PM

Right now Delta is bigger than United and US Air is a little bigger than NWA. So, you would have to say US Air/UAL would be bigger.

Jay5150 05-02-2008 10:50 PM

It's really all conjecture because you can't just add airline A's numbers to airline B's numbers and have a result. Places where significant overlap occurs would require significant divestitures by the government to gain approval.

That's one of the big reasons DAL & NWA like each other, because they believe that they will be forced to divest virtually nothing because of very little overlap.

In contrast, as an example, if USAIR had been successful in it's hostile takeover of DAL, one of the New York shuttle operations (probably DAL's) would have went bye-bye. So you'd be merging just to turn around and sell off a highly profitable section of your business.

-If UAL and NWA were to get together, big problems with the Asia overlap

-If AA and CAL teamed up, big problems with south of the border overlap

-AA and UAL, Chicago overlap

-DAL and CAL, New York overlap

Things like that

newKnow 05-02-2008 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jay5150 (Post 378391)
It's really all conjecture because you can't just add airline A's numbers to airline B's numbers and have a result. Places where significant overlap occurs would require significant divestitures by the government to gain approval.

That's one of the big reasons DAL & NWA like each other, because they believe that they will be forced to divest virtually nothing because of very little overlap.

In contrast, as an example, if USAIR had been successful in it's hostile takeover of DAL, one of the New York shuttle operations (probably DAL's) would have went bye-bye. So you'd be merging just to turn around and sell off a highly profitable section of your business.

-If UAL and NWA were to get together, big problems with the Asia overlap

-If AA and CAL teamed up, big problems with south of the border overlap

-AA and UAL, Chicago overlap

-DAL and CAL, New York overlap

Things like that

I agree with that analysis. But my question is, what does US Air overlap with UAL?

Right now US Air isn't even overlapping with themselves? :rolleyes:

(Ok, I couldn't resist. Forgive me East and West guys & gals.)

New K Now

Jay5150 05-03-2008 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 378393)
I agree with that analysis. But my question is, what does US Air overlap with UAL?

Right now US Air isn't even overlapping with themselves? :rolleyes:

(Ok, I couldn't resist. Forgive me East and West guys & gals.)

New K Now

I got nothin'

Justdoinmyjob 05-04-2008 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 378393)
I agree with that analysis. But my question is, what does US Air overlap with UAL?

Right now US Air isn't even overlapping with themselves? :rolleyes:

(Ok, I couldn't resist. Forgive me East and West guys & gals.)

New K Now

in the NE and Washington DC markets.


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