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Superpilot92 08-11-2008 10:05 PM
well with the JCBA scope caps and limits that will protect us from them just growing and growing the regionals. If they cut all of the -9's they have to replace that lift at mainline or dont replace it. The regionals are pretty much going to be capped out with this scope language.

Cheers to the above 5!!^^^^^^^^^^^

oldfr8dog 08-12-2008 05:31 AM
Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 442903)

4. When the time comes for "us" to really get ours -as in UPS and Fed Ex pay + 5% -10% - then there had better not be any dilly-dallying around by management.


Sincerely,
New K Now (I guess I need a new name) :)
I for one sincerelly hope you get it. If we can point to you guys and say that there's the DAL guys, 12,000 of them, that are making more than us, it only strengthens our demands for a pay raise when we go back to the bargaining table in 2011.

Tinpusher007 08-12-2008 05:34 AM
Originally Posted by oldfr8dog (Post 442982)
I for one sincerelly hope you get it. If we can point to you guys and say that there's the DAL guys, 12,000 of them, that are making more than us, it only strengthens our demands for a pay raise when we go back to the bargaining table in 2011.
Not saying that I hope you guys don't get what you want, but as far as strength in numbers goes...doesn't AA have around 12k pilots?

DAL4EVER 08-12-2008 06:48 AM
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 442983)
Not saying that I hope you guys don't get what you want, but as far as strength in numbers goes...doesn't AA have around 12k pilots?
9,000 active. 2000 are still on furlough. Also, they are APA. We would be the strongest ALPA carrier. Hopefully with the balance sheet they will have, we can go a long way towards "restoring the profession". We have given them some huge IOUs over the past few years. Now its time for them to take that, invest it, and in four years pay it back.

Cheers.

Superpilot92 08-12-2008 07:01 AM
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007 (Post 442983)
Not saying that I hope you guys don't get what you want, but as far as strength in numbers goes...doesn't AA have around 12k pilots?
They still pretty much have the highest paid pilots of the legacies in the post 9/11 environment.

tsquare 08-12-2008 08:24 AM
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 442650)
Also, time will tell but do you really think that LCC, UAL, AMR, et al., are going to be light years ahead of us. UAL is languishing in the mud, LCC doesn't even know who to negotiate with and AMR is swimming the tide of mediocrity through their management. We are merging the two healthiest networks, with next to no overlap, and an extensive worldwide presence.
No overlap? How about domestically? Does that not count?

tsquare 08-12-2008 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 442651)
That said, in four years from now, I will want mine. We have given management the tools they need to make this all possible. Now the ball is in their court.
We'll get 'em next time.. right...

tsquare 08-12-2008 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 442733)
My bet is that 12k pilots will not stand for a delay if DL is making big $'s.
That is hysterical... just what do you think we will do about it if DAL IS making tons of coin, and management drags it's feet? Nothing.. same as always. Actually, I would rather take over alpa national, and send prater and his bunch packing. No more pensions and/or $400,000.00 salaries at national while/since all his major "contributors" have lost everything back to 1988 wages. Enough is enough. Take it Back starts at home.

Superpilot92 08-12-2008 08:34 AM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 443075)
No overlap? How about domestically? Does that not count?
Domestically there is very little overlap as well. Check it out ;)

DAL4EVER 08-12-2008 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 443075)
No overlap? How about domestically? Does that not count?
All 12 routes?


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