Yes, Carl I agree. We are a long way from there. And I think that before we are nationalized they will allow full foreign ownership since we can a country will be utterly bankrupt.

Ummmm...I'm going to say that began with the loss of our pensions...this is just the next chapter.

Soup

Judas Priest, guys. We threw away all of our negotiating capital on this contract. As the Soup Nazi would say, "Adios, Muchacho." We will never, EVER get it back.

Managment, its slimy mouthpieces, and every jounranlistic outlet that the executives' millions of dollars can tap, will exploit (or invent) the next crisis--and magically, that crisis will appear just as Section Six (FINALLY, after how many years?) opens in 4 years--regardless of the company's profitability (which will be massive).

Does any rational pilot expect us to have any kind of new contract, crappy or otherwise, six years from now? Of course not.

True to form, DALPA and its sad-sack pilots won't posture, they won't threaten, they won't engage in self-help, and of course they won't strike. They'll just roll over, take it in the shorts, and ask for more. Sadly, there aren't enough frothing-at-the-mouth NWA goons to change it.

Thanks for your "foresight," "backbone," and "leadership," DALPA.

Next headline: Lee Moak hired as DAL's Executive VP of Integrity Abdication.

Spaceman........is that you??????:rolleyes:

My thoughts exactly!! :D:D

Carl