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Free Bird 11-20-2008 02:06 PM

Disturbing
 
The fact that this is turning into many, not one specific incident of the NWA MEC producing "false" information is very disturbing.

Let's call this as it is. The NWA MEC is trying to hose the Delta pilots.

johnso29 11-20-2008 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 502813)
The fact that this is turning into many, not one specific incident of the NWA MEC producing "false" information is very disturbing.

Let's call this as it is. The NWA MEC is trying to hose the Delta pilots.

Darn, ya caught us. Guess ya better call the arbitration police. :rolleyes:
You ladies just don't stop. The hearings are done, we have NO CONTROL over any of it, and you're still throwing out conspiracy theories as if someones gonna throw a yellow flag and give the NWA MEC a 15 yard penalty. :rolleyes: Stop driving the wedge. The list will be out in a little over two weeks and we can all get on with our lives. Jeez, let it go.

Cogf16 11-20-2008 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 502854)
Darn, ya caught us. Guess ya better call the arbitration police. :rolleyes:
You ladies just don't stop. The hearings are done, we have NO CONTROL over any of it, and you're still throwing out conspiracy theories as if someones gonna throw a yellow flag and give the NWA MEC a 15 yard penalty. :rolleyes: Stop driving the wedge. The list will be out in a little over two weeks and we can all get on with our lives. Jeez, let it go.

Johnso,

If ANY of this is true and I suspect most of it is, you pre NW guys should be as disturbed by it as we are. Merely saying, "lets move on" is disingenuous at best and very irresponsible on your part. Talk about driving a wedge! These fradulent claims, phantom airplanes, routes, pilots, and downright deceit will be more responsible for long time bad feelings than anything we talk about here.

johnso29 11-20-2008 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 502872)
Johnso,

If ANY of this is true and I suspect most of it is, you pre NW guys should be as disturbed by it as we are. Merely saying, "lets move on" is disingenuous at best and very irresponsible on your part. Talk about driving a wedge! These fradulent claims, phantom airplanes, routes, pilots, and downright deceit will be more responsible for long time bad feelings than anything we talk about here.

Do you notice how DAL guys are the ONLY ones concerned about it? And lets not even get started on "phantom planes & phantom pilots". Thats the pot calling the kettle black right there. Continually trying to fuel the fire. It's over. Look at the list on the 8th, and move on.

Bucking Bar 11-20-2008 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 502854)
You ladies just don't stop. The hearings are done, we have NO CONTROL over any of it ... as if someones gonna throw a yellow flag and give the NWA MEC a 15 yard penalty. :rolleyes: Stop driving the wedge. The list will be out in a little over two weeks and we can all get on with our lives. Jeez, let it go.

If the Arbitrators buy off on inacurrate data provided by NWA and it harms Delta pilots it is not something that should be let go, it should be fixed. Hopefully it got fixed during rebuttal.

I don't accept the notion that lying is allright to screw your co-workers. When honest mistakes are made, honest people fix the error.

johnso29 11-20-2008 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 502885)
If the Arbitrators buy off on inacurrate data provided by NWA and it harms Delta pilots it is not something that should be let go, it should be fixed. Hopefully it got fixed during rebuttal.

I don't accept the notion that lying is allright to screw your co-workers. When honest mistakes are made, honest people fix the error.


A mistake is a mistake, and I agree it should be corrected. However, the title of this thread implies that these were NOT mistakes, but intentional shenanigans.

capncrunch 11-20-2008 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 502813)
The fact that this is turning into many, not one specific incident of the NWA MEC producing "false" information is very disturbing.

Let's call this as it is. The NWA MEC is trying to hose the Delta pilots.

Might want to adjust your tin foil hat, there was no conspiracy here.

B7ER Guy 11-20-2008 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 502880)
Do you notice how DAL guys are the ONLY ones concerned about it? And lets not even get started on "phantom planes & phantom pilots". Thats the pot calling the kettle black right there. Continually trying to fuel the fire. It's over. Look at the list on the 8th, and move on.

Johnso:
Let's reverse places here and see the jumping and screaming that would come from the Northwest side.
I agree with the let's look at the list on the 8th, but the damage is done, and will have long term effects.
JMHO.

johnso29 11-20-2008 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by B7ER Guy (Post 502912)
Johnso:
Let's reverse places here and see the jumping and screaming that would come from the Northwest side.
I agree with the let's look at the list on the 8th, but the damage is done, and will have long term effects.
JMHO.


No jumping and screaming from me. I've got a bad ankle, and I did enough damage from drunken screaming at hockey games in college. ;)

Just about everyone will probably take a hit with this list. But it's done. We can read, analyze, and try to understand transcripts all we want. We can try to point out mistakes, conspiracies, and scream foul play ALL WE WANT. Bottom line. It's done. We're one, and it's time to move on.

slowplay 11-20-2008 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 502907)
Might want to adjust your tin foil hat, there was no conspiracy here.

Yeah, it's real tough for ALPA to do things like crosscheck dues payment against seniority lists. You'd think a prudent MEC might want to ensure that they're receiving the correct dues. That would definitely reveal who is not paying dues and why (furlough, LTS, or already retired, etc.).

I guess it's too much to ask...:rolleyes:

Apparently seniority is forever at NWA, even after you've retired!:D Now I understand!

The wise guys will have to rule by December 8 if we don't come to agreement by ourselves. Either way, at that time we will be one step away from becoming one. We have the joy of trying to merge two MEC's in a civil fashion right after the SLI.:eek:

I want tickets and at least a 3rd row seat. I think you'll get wet if you sit too close!


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