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Old 11-28-2008, 09:35 AM   #1  
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Default The November APA at NWA

The results of the November APA are as follows:

A330 - 15 Captains
B757 - 1 Captain
A320 - 31 Captains

and a bunch of F/O positions.

All are new awards. No displacements.

Subsequent flying bulletin stated that necessary 747-400 Captain awards may be delayed a month due to managing the expected outflow from the A330 to the 747-400.

This is one example of a thread dealing with NWA/DAL that is actually fact based.

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Carl,That is good news.Do you know if and when the conversion to the DL manning formula will take place and is this part of that or hopefully expansion for any reason ?
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Carl,That is good news.Do you know if and when the conversion to the DL manning formula will take place and is this part of that or hopefully expansion for any reason ?
The flying bulletin states that these upgrades are for filling vacancies left by larger than expected retirements and the gradual shift to the Delta manning formula.

The conversion to the DAL manning formula won't happen until bid period 5. We've heard bid period 5 will probably be around the time of the Single Operating Certificate.

My guess is that most if not all of the upgrades are due to retirements. I say this because the 747-400 have had a number of new Captains added for the last 2 months, yet every flight is still manned with the 1 Captain and 3 F/O augmentation scheme.

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On top of that there were a lot of Reserves moved to Block holders which is also "upward" movement.
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I heard that there were no 747 awards on this APA because the 747 training department is maxed out from the last couple awards.
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What I've heard is that we are running thin and we can expect to be even more lean as the next ten months pass as they are not going to hire on the nwa side to replace our attrition. They're hoping that with higher monthly maxes, overtime and no more leaves they can staff the airline for the spring and summer. We'll see but if guys keep throwing their retirement papers in the numbers may not work. Their thinking is that they are fat (no offense to those challenged by size) on the Dal side so that when we have a SOC it will even out.
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I heard that there were no 747 awards on this APA because the 747 training department is maxed out from the last couple awards.
That's partially true, but the bigger problem is that they know that all the 747-400 Captain positions will come from the A330, and that exodus has to be managed since they're so lean on the A330 Captain side.

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The results of the November APA are as follows:

A330 - 15 Captains
B757 - 1 Captain
A320 - 31 Captains

and a bunch of F/O positions.

All are new awards. No displacements.

Subsequent flying bulletin stated that necessary 747-400 Captain awards may be delayed a month due to managing the expected outflow from the A330 to the 747-400.

This is one example of a thread dealing with NWA/DAL that is actually fact based.

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Carl,
Good news - Keep it coming!

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What I've heard is that we are running thin and we can expect to be even more lean as the next ten months pass as they are not going to hire on the nwa side to replace our attrition. They're hoping that with higher monthly maxes, overtime and no more leaves they can staff the airline for the spring and summer. We'll see but if guys keep throwing their retirement papers in the numbers may not work. Their thinking is that they are fat (no offense to those challenged by size) on the Dal side so that when we have a SOC it will even out.
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The results of the November APA are as follows:

A330 - 15 Captains
B757 - 1 Captain
A320 - 31 Captains

and a bunch of F/O positions.

All are new awards. No displacements.

Subsequent flying bulletin stated that necessary 747-400 Captain awards may be delayed a month due to managing the expected outflow from the A330 to the 747-400.

This is one example of a thread dealing with NWA/DAL that is actually fact based.

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Do you mean the February 2009 APA that was published in November?
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