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acl65pilot 11-08-2010 02:30 PM

I can see an AS, HI hookup. I cannot see why DAL would go after Virgin America. DAL would have supreme code share rights though the AS code share agreement that is already in place. It in effect would allow 86 seats per flight to be sold as DAL seats.

johnso29 11-08-2010 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 879436)
JB buys Spirit and maybe COPA (whoa!)
Alaska and Hawaiian merge
-Commutair and Island Air Merge and are subsequently bought by Hawaiian/Alaska but are kept separate from Horizon (oh yes indeedy)
American OR Cactus OR SWA buys Suncountry (DAL takin a hit here, esp if SWA buys)
Great Lakes and Gulfstream Merge



any CEO that wants me to do consulting send me a PM, I'm not free though.

SWA has already decreased flights in & out of SLC, & they haven't even put a dent in MSP traffic. Not sure if DAL would be taking a hit if SWA bought Sun Country.

flywithjohn 11-08-2010 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 898288)
SWA has already decreased flights in & out of SLC, & they haven't even put a dent in MSP traffic. Not sure if DAL would be taking a hit if SWA bought Sun Country.

I would like to see Sun Country remain autonomous, however with all these mergers how long can it stay that way? If SWA buys Sun Country, it will have the attention of the former Redtail, not so much if American does.

Flyby1206 11-15-2010 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 898132)
I can see an AS, HI hookup. I cannot see why DAL would go after Virgin America. DAL would have supreme code share rights though the AS code share agreement that is already in place. It in effect would allow 86 seats per flight to be sold as DAL seats.

I think AS will remain independent and codeshare with DL and AA, but they focus mainly on the north/south flows on the west coast. I thought VX could be a benefit to DL in the transcon market, and in particular if AA moves closer with jetblue in JFK. Also, I'm thinking Virgin Atlantic will make a decision to join Skyteam which would grease the wheels for VX/DL to at the least form some sort of closer alliance.

Flyby1206 12-14-2010 04:21 PM

Matter of time for Virgin to join Skyteam...

Virgin Atlantic Receives Merger Enquiries After Report of Delta Approach - Bloomberg


Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd., the Richard Branson-controlled carrier that signaled interest in a merger six months ago, said it has received “a number of lines of enquiry” after hiring Deutsche Bank AG as an adviser.

“It is far too early to comment on individual details,” a Virgin spokesman, Greg Dawson, said late yesterday in an e- mailed statement. The London-based airline has “nothing further to add,” he said.

Virgin brought in Deutsche Bank as mergers helped competitors bulk up and two of the airline’s trans-Atlantic rivals, British Airways Plc and AMR Corp.’s American Airlines, won regulatory approval to deepen their ties. Deutsche Bank will be at work for a “number of months,” Virgin said.

The airline confirmed contacts after Sky News reported the talks, without saying where it got the information. Delta Air Lines Inc. is among the competitors studying a Virgin tie-up, Sky reported.

“As a matter of policy, we don’t comment on industry rumor or speculation about potential partnerships,” said Betsy Talton, a spokeswoman for Atlanta-based Delta.

Virgin is 51 percent owned by Branson, the British billionaire who founded Virgin Group Ltd., with the rest held by Singapore Airlines Ltd. Nicholas Ionides, a Singapore Air spokesman, declined to comment.

Virgin Chief Executive Officer Steve Ridgway broached the idea of a merger in a June interview with Bloomberg Television. The airline might be open to consolidation, he said, and there was potential for Virgin to “grow to become part of a bigger group.”

jetliner1526 12-05-2012 09:15 AM

Frontier and Allegiant or Spirit. Southwest and jetBlue will eventually merge forces.

china clipper 12-05-2012 06:12 PM

New rumors about Delta and Virgin Atlantic. Not a merger but potential purchase of 49% stake that Singapore Airline currently has:

Delta Covets London Growth With Stake in Virgin Atlantic - Bloomberg

Plucky 12-12-2012 01:02 PM

I think republic will buy delta... It only makes since!

Milesar 12-20-2012 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by jetliner1526 (Post 1305493)
Frontier and Allegiant or Spirit. Southwest and jetBlue will eventually merge forces.

I think Allegiant would be a tough merger, their operations are a contrast to the rest of the industry. Usually one of the benefits of merging comes with shared routes/gates/aircraft, however strange things happen, and I'm not business savvy.

savall 02-08-2013 11:16 PM

I don't see Virgin America merging anytime soon, simply because its already one of Branson's 350+ subs. Possible 49% stake ? Possibility. I don't see DAL putting that tip in though. More likely Alaska or Frontier who have the cash, motivation, and ability to profit + in that direct market. The 'majors' already have a reasonable "margin" on coast to coasts between LAX & SFO.

p.s. is UAL "p.s." still operational ?


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