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iahflyr 06-13-2017 06:39 PM

Mesa TA Details
 
Here is a sunmary:

CRJ900 and 900 Classic become one payrate after two years. (76/79 seat).

MEC voted it in 7-1 to send to pilots.

200 pay gone, all soft time will be paid at 76 seat rate first two years then 79 seat pay after the payscale merges.

FO pay 36/hr starting.

Actual block or better per flight leg.

Hotel language with short & Long overnights as well as giving the hotel committee control over decisions and forcing the company to maintain a more watchful eye.

Aggressive reserve pickup.

Short Call (2hr), Long Call (12-18hr)

Bidding opens 10th, schedules out 19th.

Layovers of 28 hours or more have 2.0 hours added to the pairing.


Max CRJ 900 CA Pay year 1 of contract is 108.00, max CA pay after 5 years is $114.35

Max FO pay is $52.00 year 1, $53.50 year 5.

People can bid from seat to seat, captains only, only 1% a year, so for 1100 pilots 11 people. Then you are seat locked for 3 years with a 1 year training contract.

Contract increases yearly, on top of structured rate. Raises 6 months before contract ends, and then 1% raise per year until a new contract is settled.

Parking is paid for if you commute.

Commuter clause up to 4x.

Deadhead pay 62.5%

Per diem 1.60 plus $40 a month for iPads in per diem. Goes up by .5c every year on top of CPI.

401k 0-9 years company matches 50% of to 6% of pilot contribution.

10+ years company matches 50% of up to 10% of pilot contribution.

Company must now present buffer numbers to union and reasoning to make sure no unreasonable numbers are attained.

Min guarantee increases from 75.83 to 76

hockeypilot44 06-14-2017 08:25 PM

Why does the max captain rate rise 5.8 percent during the life of the contract while the FO rate only rises 2.9 percent? I laughed at the 62.5 percent deadhead pay. Really? I thought everyone had a 100 percent deadhead pay at this point. Talk about nickeling and diming.

captsurf 06-15-2017 01:10 AM

Mesa TA Details
 

Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 2379040)
Here is a sunmary:



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FO pay 36/hr starting
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Yet on DOS+2, new hire pay decreases 14% to $31/hr... Or if you're already on year 2 or 3 pay, you actually take a $2 pay cut on DOS+2... How did this get put out to a vote???

(At least according to the pay scales I saw)


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hockeypilot44 06-15-2017 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2379759)
Yet on DOS+2, new hire pay decreases 14% to $31/hr... Or if you're already on year 2 or 3 pay, you actually take a $2 pay cut on DOS+2... How did this get put out to a vote???

(At least according to the pay scales I saw)


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That can't be true. Lol. How can a payscale decrease?

captsurf 06-15-2017 01:59 AM

Mesa TA Details
 

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2379763)
That can't be true. Lol. How can a payscale decrease?



Based on what someone sent me (and I'm not a Mesa pilot so it may be outdated/false) it is true.

DOS/DOS+1/DOS+2
1yr-36/36/31
2yr-38/38/34
3yr-38/38/36

Someone please tell me this isn't the case. Is there more to it with blending pay scales making these numbers inaccurate?

Cloud 9 06-15-2017 03:31 AM

As it was explained to me that's not true, you will not get paid less than DOS+2 it has to do with these other programs for pilots coming in from college programs , not pilots on property

Purpleanga 06-15-2017 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Cloud 9 (Post 2379771)
As it was explained to me that's not true, you will not get paid less than DOS+2 it has to do with these other programs for pilots coming in from college programs , not pilots on property

Dude listen to yourself. It sounds ridiculous to have your future brethren get paid less. Get yours while pulling the ladder underneath you.. You must be clueless or management. No regular average line pilot would be ok with that.

Santos Dumont 06-15-2017 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by captsurf (Post 2379765)
Based on what someone sent me (and I'm not a Mesa pilot so it may be outdated/false) it is true.

DOS/DOS+1/DOS+2
1yr-36/36/31
2yr-38/38/34
3yr-38/38/36

Someone please tell me this isn't the case. Is there more to it with blending pay scales making these numbers inaccurate?

Those rates are correct. And yes, there is more to the story:

3-A-4 The First Officer pay rate scales for DOS and DOS+1 are interim
scales. The Company may, at its discretion, extend the interim
scales in increments of one (1) year, with ninety (90) days’ notice to
the Association.
3-A-5 No First Officer will have his hourly pay rate reduced at the
conclusion of the interim pay scale or during any extension to that
scale. A First Officer will be paid the higher of the interim scale rate
or the otherwise applicable scale rate.

Chancellor 06-15-2017 07:46 AM

First year pay scale with DOS: $36, $36, $31, $31
Second year: $38, $38, $34, $34.34


What an embarrassment that they not only couldn't even match first year pay of other regionals, but level then decrease pay scales.
I would be embarrassed to bring this to a pilot group for a vote, and I'd be embarrassed that was the best ALPA could do for me as a pilot.

hockeypilot44 06-15-2017 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Santos Dumont (Post 2379792)
Those rates are correct. And yes, there is more to the story:

3-A-4 The First Officer pay rate scales for DOS and DOS+1 are interim
scales. The Company may, at its discretion, extend the interim
scales in increments of one (1) year, with ninety (90) days’ notice to
the Association.
3-A-5 No First Officer will have his hourly pay rate reduced at the
conclusion of the interim pay scale or during any extension to that
scale. A First Officer will be paid the higher of the interim scale rate
or the otherwise applicable scale rate.

Your union is absolutely disgraceful. Lowering the rates of future pilots. Do we never learn? This has been done before. Back in the day, it was called B-scale. How could your MEC let this even go to a vote?

Full disclosure, I've been at a legacy almost 10 years, but I have been following how regional pay has been rising. Then you guys do something like this and set the regionals back again.


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