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Old 06-25-2017, 07:07 AM
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Which of these fly an Ejet out of Houston? Zero. Zip. Nada. Go with SW on the Ejet to sit on reserve in Chicago and take 3 years to upgrade to sit on reserve again. Unless you go with SW on the Ejet for a west coast base, then you sit on reserve in Chicago for months, to transfer to the West coast, to sit on reserve for many more months, to wait years to upgrade.

Pretty rare to get the Ejet on Envoy unless you are in your 50's. Republic doesn't just give you the Ejet either.

While I agree there is nothing magical about the Ejet getting you hired on with a major, there are pilots that want to fly it. Most majors simply want the 121 time and a decent internal reference.
Republic only has the ejet.... So...
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:22 AM
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Is it a typo on the FO scale that the pay goes DOWN at DOS+2 for the first 3 years of the scale?
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:24 AM
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Is it a typo on the FO scale that the pay goes DOWN at DOS+2 for the first 3 years of the scale?
No it is not. They want poverty wages back when they think the shortage is over.
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy View Post
Republic only has the ejet.... So...
Yep, go with Republic if you like their bases, or their upgrade times. I never said anyone should vote for this - there are plenty of reasons not to. I just said there are reasons to fly for Mesa if you want the bases or the Ejet time. No one will get you Ejet time faster at the lowest quality of life.
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:27 AM
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No it is not. They want poverty wages back when they think the shortage is over.
LOL.......
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Old 06-25-2017, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds View Post
Yep, go with Republic if you like their bases, or their upgrade times. I never said anyone should vote for this - there are plenty of reasons not to. I just said there are reasons to fly for Mesa if you want the bases or the Ejet time. No one will get you Ejet time faster at the lowest quality of life.
I hope mesa pilots don't cry themselves to sleep at the comfort inn airport saying at least they fly a 175.
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Old 06-25-2017, 09:00 AM
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FAR 117 actually prevents them from putting you on airport reserve after a flying segment. However they can (legally per 117) keep you on duty if there is a possibility of more flying within your remaining FDP availability.

It would however be a big concession to allow them to immortalize the "FDP" placeholder without getting something for it.

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There are valid reasons for wanting to fly the Ejet for Mesa. First, a pilot might live in the Houston area. Second, a pilot may want to build Ejet time quickly to progress their career. Either of these are valid reasons to sign with Mesa on the Ejet. With either of these reasons, you may not care about the pay as much - except $36 is better than $22.
The Houston people might love saying "EJET" for some reason, but an rj is an rj. Don't delude yourself into thinking that any legit carrier you dream of flying for cares if the engines are under the wing or whether or not it has auto brakes.
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FAR 117 actually prevents them from putting you on airport reserve after a flying segment. However they can (legally per 117) keep you on duty if there is a possibility of more flying within your remaining FDP availability.
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No it doesn't. (The ready comment)
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Originally Posted by Navmode View Post
FAR 117 actually prevents them from putting you on airport reserve after a flying segment. However they can (legally per 117) keep you on duty if there is a possibility of more flying within your remaining FDP availability.

It would however be a big concession to allow them to immortalize the "FDP" placeholder without getting something for it.



The Houston people might love saying "EJET" for some reason, but an rj is an rj. Don't delude yourself into thinking that any legit carrier you dream of flying for cares if the engines are under the wing or whether or not it has auto brakes.
No auto brakes at Envoy...lol and its the 175 "Heavy".
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Originally Posted by Navmode View Post
FAR 117 actually prevents them from putting you on airport reserve after a flying segment. However they can (legally per 117) keep you on duty if there is a possibility of more flying within your remaining FDP availability.

It would however be a big concession to allow them to immortalize the "FDP" placeholder without getting something for it.



The Houston people might love saying "EJET" for some reason, but an rj is an rj. Don't delude yourself into thinking that any legit carrier you dream of flying for cares if the engines are under the wing or whether or not it has auto brakes.
No major carrier cares what you fly when they hire you. It is hours in seat and who you know.

Most IAH Mesa pilots don't care about the EJet either, but it is UAL that cares about the EJet. If you live in a UAL base, you better want to fly the EJet. It doesn't matter if it is ORD, IAH, or SFO.

My bet is the EJet comes to IAD for Mesa. You want to live In a UAL base, you better fly the EJet.
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