Mesa vs Republic
06-26-2018, 02:15 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Helixx
Forgive my ignorance, ejet as in E175? That would actually be a good thing right? One would get to fly both within reasonable time of each other.
06-26-2018, 03:13 PM
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I dunno where the idea that Republic’s training department is the worst came from. No one really thinks that here at Republic. That’s bad information. With Republic hiring 50-60 a month, how many do you expect to fail? A number of those because that’s what is realistic and pass/fail rates at Republic are the same as anywhere. My training was just fine here.
Upgrade is not 5 years, not even at DCA. It has come down in all bases except perhaps ORD and specially at DCA it will be somewhere around 3 very soon. It will continue to fall because our turn over is tremendous and recently our seniority list has grown.
Upgrade is not 5 years, not even at DCA. It has come down in all bases except perhaps ORD and specially at DCA it will be somewhere around 3 very soon. It will continue to fall because our turn over is tremendous and recently our seniority list has grown.
06-26-2018, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody
When I started at Mesa, almost half of my class had just washed-out at other regionals.
Yes - you read that right.
The person sitting next to me on Day One of indoc admitted to me that Republic had just let him go . . . after 86 hours of IOE.
Not one of these pilots failed training at Mesa.
Several of them required extra training, however. Like repeating each sim session.
I found this to be (ahem) odd, so I asked a couple of check airman about it. They assured me that it was just a fluke - that none of these pilots would have passed IOE at Mesa had they been sub-par.
I will stand by my statement in a previous post - that I have never encountered a problem during my training at Mesa. Nor have I ever met an IOE captain who would sign off anyone whom they wouldn't put their own family on board with.
Yes - you read that right.
The person sitting next to me on Day One of indoc admitted to me that Republic had just let him go . . . after 86 hours of IOE.
Not one of these pilots failed training at Mesa.
Several of them required extra training, however. Like repeating each sim session.
I found this to be (ahem) odd, so I asked a couple of check airman about it. They assured me that it was just a fluke - that none of these pilots would have passed IOE at Mesa had they been sub-par.
I will stand by my statement in a previous post - that I have never encountered a problem during my training at Mesa. Nor have I ever met an IOE captain who would sign off anyone whom they wouldn't put their own family on board with.
06-26-2018, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
How do you argue that half your Indoc class being re-treads from other regionals is a good thing?
Draw your own conclusions.
06-26-2018, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody
When I started at Mesa, almost half of my class had just washed-out at other regionals.
Yes - you read that right.
The person sitting next to me on Day One of indoc admitted to me that Republic had just let him go . . . after 86 hours of IOE.
Not one of these pilots failed training at Mesa.
Several of them required extra training, however. Like repeating each sim session.
I found this to be (ahem) odd, so I asked a couple of check airman about it. They assured me that it was just a fluke - that none of these pilots would have passed IOE at Mesa had they been sub-par.
I will stand by my statement in a previous post - that I have never encountered a problem during my training at Mesa. Nor have I ever met an IOE captain who would sign off anyone whom they wouldn't put their own family on board with.
Yes - you read that right.
The person sitting next to me on Day One of indoc admitted to me that Republic had just let him go . . . after 86 hours of IOE.
Not one of these pilots failed training at Mesa.
Several of them required extra training, however. Like repeating each sim session.
I found this to be (ahem) odd, so I asked a couple of check airman about it. They assured me that it was just a fluke - that none of these pilots would have passed IOE at Mesa had they been sub-par.
I will stand by my statement in a previous post - that I have never encountered a problem during my training at Mesa. Nor have I ever met an IOE captain who would sign off anyone whom they wouldn't put their own family on board with.
06-26-2018, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by knewyork
I dunno where the idea that Republic’s training department is the worst came from. No one really thinks that here at Republic. That’s bad information. With Republic hiring 50-60 a month, how many do you expect to fail? A number of those because that’s what is realistic and pass/fail rates at Republic are the same as anywhere. My training was just fine here.
Upgrade is not 5 years, not even at DCA. It has come down in all bases except perhaps ORD and specially at DCA it will be somewhere around 3 very soon. It will continue to fall because our turn over is tremendous and recently our seniority list has grown.
Upgrade is not 5 years, not even at DCA. It has come down in all bases except perhaps ORD and specially at DCA it will be somewhere around 3 very soon. It will continue to fall because our turn over is tremendous and recently our seniority list has grown.
In my class, we had only one guy who got tired of 135 operations in a wide body who was a retread. That was out of 15 guys.
06-27-2018, 07:28 AM
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Go to the airline that fits you the best. Contracts aren’t comparable. Republic has considerably better work rules and pay. If you require good health insurance definitely go with Republic. Mesa does have a faster upgrade. Schedules are typically pretty good at Republic with efficient trips.
I don’t know much about mesa’s training but people do washout at Republic. Not a lot but it does happen. I have found some of Mesa’s past hiring practices concerning. Not saying there aren’t good pilots there, but they do have a reputation for being a second chance airline.
I don’t know much about mesa’s training but people do washout at Republic. Not a lot but it does happen. I have found some of Mesa’s past hiring practices concerning. Not saying there aren’t good pilots there, but they do have a reputation for being a second chance airline.
06-27-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
I agree. A lot of our guys come from Republic for some reason. I don’t see many from other regionals.
06-27-2018, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
That’s funny... Many washouts from the WO’s end up at Mesa. I know of several. It’s where washouts from every other airline’s training program end up it seems like.
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