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No Land 3 11-17-2018 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by DJ506 (Post 2709852)
-There are currently only two contract instructors. Both have 10+ years on he CRJ at other regionals.


WoW 10+ years on the CRJ and still not able to progress in their airline careers!!Hmmmm....:confused:
In this crazy hiring culture, esp. with 'Flow Through's" and such, it sure as heck, ain't their love for the CRJ. More like having some skeletons in their closets, (so to speak)...i.e. past/present training issues, personality issues, no 4 year college degree or just simply unable to pass an interview!!

99% of people that don't move on is because of their own lack of desire to do what is required or are comfortable with what they are doing.
1% are the problem children.

AKwarts 11-17-2018 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by DJ506 (Post 2709852)
-There are currently only two contract instructors. Both have 10+ years on he CRJ at other regionals.


WoW 10+ years on the CRJ and still not able to progress in their airline careers!!Hmmmm....:confused:
In this crazy hiring culture, esp. with 'Flow Through's" and such, it sure as heck, ain't their love for the CRJ. More like having some skeletons in their closets, (so to speak)...i.e. past/present training issues, personality issues, no 4 year college degree or just simply unable to pass an interview!!

Don’t be so quick to judge these guys. Maybe they have family responsibilities that require them to be home every night? Or lost a medical? One of the guys I met in training and he is a phenomenal instructor.

There is also only two CAE instructors that are contracted to instruct for Mesa (These are different than Mesa company contractors). One is a former Mesa guy and the other is a retired United guy that is really sharp and did almost all of my training for initial training.

pangolin 11-17-2018 07:14 AM

You don’t know. Could be age or medical.


Originally Posted by DJ506 (Post 2709852)
-There are currently only two contract instructors. Both have 10+ years on he CRJ at other regionals.


WoW 10+ years on the CRJ and still not able to progress in their airline careers!!Hmmmm....:confused:
In this crazy hiring culture, esp. with 'Flow Through's" and such, it sure as heck, ain't their love for the CRJ. More like having some skeletons in their closets, (so to speak)...i.e. past/present training issues, personality issues, no 4 year college degree or just simply unable to pass an interview!!


pangolin 11-17-2018 07:16 AM

There HAS been a turn around. We are finally adding more than we are losing. Significantly so.

turbinepilot2 01-01-2020 11:03 AM

This thread is a year cool, but

-is the pass rate for Mesa new hires any better this year? Still 50% failure rate like when this thread began a year ago?

-Mesa does not offer AQP for initial training I assume, but what if you are a veteran CRJ pilot transferring from some other regional? To rephrase the same, is a new hire with a CL-65 type/121/ATP placed in recurrent or initial training?

Baradium 01-01-2020 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by turbinepilot2 (Post 2949143)
This thread is a year cool, but

-is the pass rate for Mesa new hires any better this year? Still 50% failure rate like when this thread began a year ago?

-Mesa does not offer AQP for initial training I assume, but what if you are a veteran CRJ pilot transferring from some other regional? To rephrase the same, is a new hire with a CL-65 type/121/ATP placed in recurrent or initial training?

I don't work for Mesa, but no airline can put you in recurrent training as a new hire. There has been the occasional waiver for a shorter initial course that some airlines have, but it's not recurrent.

jetlag q 01-01-2020 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by DJ506 (Post 2709852)
-There are currently only two contract instructors. Both have 10+ years on he CRJ at other regionals.


WoW 10+ years on the CRJ and still not able to progress in their airline careers!!Hmmmm....:confused:
In this crazy hiring culture, esp. with 'Flow Through's" and such, it sure as heck, ain't their love for the CRJ. More like having some skeletons in their closets, (so to speak)...i.e. past/present training issues, personality issues, no 4 year college degree or just simply unable to pass an interview!!


One has a pretty good business on the side and decided he didn’t care to fly. Why not get the benefits and sleep in your own bed.

turbinepilot2 01-01-2020 02:23 PM

Thanks. But what's the latest on the washout rate? Was that a passing thing all fixed now?

Idontevenfly 01-01-2020 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by turbinepilot2 (Post 2949244)
Thanks. But what's the latest on the washout rate? Was that a passing thing all fixed now?

Not sure what it is exactly now, but if you're asking for yourself, and you have a type in the crj, I'm sure you'll be fine. The people that were failing even at the really bad pass rate time, were failing because they legitimately messed up. They're not out to fail people.

Avgeek7248 01-01-2020 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by squawk 762 (Post 2657074)
Oh, and there are no CAE instructors. The contract instructors are Mesa employees.

There's 100% CAE instructors. When I went through I had two lessons done by a CAE instructor and it was decent but a far fetch from what Mesa wanted and Mesa's own instructors taught. Both me and my sim partner had no issues with the checkride.


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