Charts+ transition
 

These new approach charts are going to be a total joke. ASAPs are going to go through the roof. I like how the company tries to make it sound like they are fantastic. It’s all about being cheaper.

We get to join Lion Air and Air Jordanian...lol
I wish this transition was a joke, but sadly it’s not. If only we had an organization, like a union, to protect us from JO and his marvelous money saving schemes...
I also suspect this will lead to many more leaving such a “wonderful” company... I know I am!
And to all and any of you thinking of coming to MESA, DONT!
The rumors are true, MESA is a very bad company.

Out of curiosity, have you volunteered to help in the union?

You haven't even seen the software or the charts and you've already decided. Chart's a chart. Information on them is mandated by the goverment.


No different then choosing NOS vs Jepp for us "old folk"


You thinking the entire airline is going to explode because we have to read a different chart really shows what you think of your fellow pilots.

Recent Jepp updates on DFW arrivals have been for crap. Have you completed the training yet or are you judging a book by it's cover?

*Mesa. Not “MESA.” You don’t call Delta DELTA or Envoy ENVOY, do you?

Yes, I’ve looked through the training guides. If they’re going to go with something that cheap looking, they might as well just use NOS charts. At least use something most pilots have used at some point.

I agree. NOS would be better.

Charts+
 

It's not just a difference between NOS vs. Jepp and it's not just a different chart format to read; it's a different program which has some problems.

I've been through the initial training on the new Charts+ system and have been using it to back up the Jepp charts on a few of my current routes. In all cases the Charts+ program showed my "copy and pasted", ATC formatted route as RED or in other words "unresolved" by the software.

How, would you be even able to pushback when your charting program doesn't even resolve your route?

Furthermore, the STARs are broken up into separate plates. This will create more fumbling from plate to plate just to finish a STAR route. Okay, I get it that this can be a new skill.

To all of you defending these new charts...quit being toolbags and supporting Mesa getting even cheaper. We already have a joke of a contract, crap pay, and ridiculous medical benefits. The least they could do is keep our Jepp charts.