United Ejet award
 

In case people here haven’t heard. A United-led LLC is purchasing ExpressJet from SkyWest and United is awarding the 25 Ejets that are replacing 25 CRJ700’s to the new ExpressJet. They will start replacing CRJ700’s with the E175SC starting in June 2019. Still no word whether these are GoJet or Mesa CRJ700’s coming offline, but I expect our stock price to drop sharply on the news.

Timing is right for them to be Mesa’s. Wonder when we will find out. It makes it easier to move our expiring ejets over to ExpressJet.

Yep. It would not surprise me that both the United contracts are both going to be allowed to expire. If the announcement comes soon, which I expect, watch for hiring to stop and upgrade classes to be cancelled.

The problem with knowing whether it is Mesa’s or GoJet’s is no one knows the expiration of GoJet’s CPA since they are a private company.

If the contracts are renewed we should announce that soon to stop a sock price free fall. On the other hand if it tanks Mesa is ripe for the picking as an AA wholly owned.

I agree. And, the rumors I hear out of PSA will come true.

Keep dreaming.....the flow isn't coming your way anytime soon. Keep those apps updated.

Now you remember when I told you all Ejets coming in house ?

Alpa UAL MEC goal I said
Wait for the new contract at UAL and tag all pilots from this new Express wholly owned like Lufthansa does I n the bottom.
That was the plan of UAL MEC all along and now watch the orders for the bigger E jets
One seniority all flown by United pilots was the goal
It’s coming

How many E jets you have will be transfer back to UAL as the 5-7 years leases expires with Mesa

I think 48 from Mesa and 20 from Republic will end up back at UAL


I hope they renew your 700s so you keep the jobs
Seriously I do hope

22 plus years into this game I know just a little about this game. Ask your MEC Chair and VP of flight ops
I even told them the 175s coming to Mesa before they knew about it. Ask your head of recruitment and alpa administrator about that as well or ask about the possibility of United buying the 700 operation back in 2006 I believe it was and tag 10 crews per aircraft to UAL seniority that will be your VP to as since he was an MEC Chair at the time

The program from ExpressJet will look like CommutAir. There will be no staple on. CommutAir has a similar investor group that owns them as is buying ExpressJet.

We will know shortly whether the Mesa Ejets are extended. United has the option to extend them for two more years. Otherwise, they go back starting in June 2019.

I also think it will be GoJet’s 700’s that are retired and not Mesa’s for a variety of reasons. But, it could be 20 Mesa 700’s and 5 GoJet’s that are retired.

I suspect Mesa and GoJet will hear shortly after the holidays, if not before.

United will be the sole owner not an investor group in this case
and yes I hope you keep the 700s
Emergency MEC meeting in Chicago by UAL MEC soon to take place

Wrong. UAL owns 40 percent of the group buying XJet.

Just got the email you are correct
They said initially it was reported wholly owned
25 planes with limited to 70 seats to replace crjs
The union still trying to get all in house and is trying to convinced management as I type

Don't be so naive on how the business world works. "Investor group" are Ual's bestest, coolest, closest buddies that they share drinks with, golf with, have family dinners with.. haha this is the beauty of business entities, they just use these entities to get around loopholes and get what they want and call them "Joint ventures" Don't be fooled! UAL owns and controls Commutair and now Xjt. They call the shots and their bestest buddies are along for the ride and hold the majority equity under the entity and some of those members are of Ual interest also. Expect a consolidation of CommutAir and Xjt into 1 entity. Ual MEC and Management clearly state they want all 76 seat and up in-house flown by UAL pilots.... and they will maneuver as necessary in other ways to get that done. Btw, with an LLC.. you can do anything you want with your operating agreement... i own 2 LLC's that hold apartments and my investors have majority equity, but i control the company as per operating agreement...

Will be interesting to see if our EJETs get extended. Not keeping my hopes up.

You are so wrong. Can you even read the SkyWest press release?

Why would they cancel the 175 contract. I thought yall were pretty reliable now on the 175.

Stock price at today's close of $9.14 is down 42.33% from its high of $15.85 on 9/5/18, down 23.83% down from the IPO of $12.00; and, 23.19% lower than it was last Thursday.


One of the key strategies involved in this IPO was to limit the number of outstanding, or floating shares to the general public.


That is, go public without actually going "public" ~ Mesa's stock is held 71.34% by Institutions, other entities (AA), and hedge funds, and 3.77% is held by Insiders, Officers, and Directors, thus leaving only 24.89% of the stock floating in the "market".


This limits the company's exposure to PIA type lawsuits about stock manipulation, insider trading, and the like ~ there is simply not enough stock even available to create this.


However if you want to have some real fun, run the names of your favorite airline executives, DO's, DM's, and other Insiders thru this database: https://www.secform4.com/.

They don’t have to cancel. They expire a couple at a time over the next several months starting in June. They can easily be given to XJT who will have their E175 program up and running by then.

Anyone know if initial hire e jet courses are still running in the new year?

That’s probably what’ll happen.

I personally expect UAL to exercise their 2 year option on the CPA for the Ejets and renew the 20 700’s for a short period. However, as we know, UAL hadn’t exercised the extension before Mesa’s quarterly report was filed in December and who really knows.....

Double volume sell off today.

Watch who is buying.....

Not fooled. Anyone owning 40% is calling the shots. United won’t do a staple on though. United didn’t for CommutAir when they controlled them and they won’t for Xjet. United may improve the CPP but there are too many pilots in both groups that United would NOT want to see be mainline pilots —- but are thrilled to let remain a regional pilot for UAX.

Dude, you post wayyy too much... and you think you know everything, its the funniest thing i've seen.. How do you know what the future plans are of the group that is setting up the future? hahaha You have ZERO clue man

Sounds to me that is happening exactly the same as Delta with Endeavor.

Why would United award Ejets to a company that doesn’t operate them when having others that already do it efficiently?? Nobody would put the time and effort of a learning curve if you are not thinking about making a long term investment with them. XJT being now theirs (though legally it isn’t) they can control who they hire, how they train them and how they provide the service to the customer, which is the reason why I think Legacies are moving away from the “outsorced flying” model.

I think once XJT has the 175 program up and running they will start bringing outsourced flying of 175’s in house (with XJT) just like Delta did with Endeavor.

He's been on practically every message board today posting stuff. Really feel sorry for him. Desperately needs a life!

Says the guy who posted 9 times today on Delta, CommutAir, ExpressJet, and Mesa today.

And, the guy who posted 10 times today on Mesa, SkyWest and ExpressJet’s forums.

We have some serious issues at Mesa if the CRJ700’s are renewed. I don’t think that will happen. But, you are the one who came on here months ago and said ExpressJet was going to take Mesa’s Ejets away. Are you still that confident that starting in June 2019 that ExpressJet will take 2 Ejets per month away from Mesa?

Look at your join date and the number of posts. That's really sad.

You didn’t answer my question. Are you still saying ExpressJet is taking Mesa’s Ejets starting in June 2019?

LOL!!! too funny, I have posted 76 total times on here! 76!! I rarely post, but since the big news that came out today, it is an exception on my part. Seeing posts from people like you and maybe 2 others, it is clear you have no life with your 1800+ posts and that you are on every board there is posting!! By your profile, you say you are 62? sounds like to me you are just a bitter old man, who is mad at the way you made your decisions... i feel sorry for you. Time to take up a hobby before you hang it up in a few years. Maybe, do some volunteer work, take up cards with the other old geezers and spend your time doing things instead of posting all day long on forums pretending like you know it all and that you know what company managers future plans are! hahaha

I speculate on what companies will do. I don’t think that UAL is going to drop CRJ700’s from Mesa.

Never said we were taking Mesa planes as part of this deal. I do know that it may be a possibility though. You are even saying that!

You really need to take MaryJanes advice. Get a life!!!

I know Mesa Ejet contract is up in June 2019. I don’t think it is realistic, but I also was wrong that ExpressJet would get all 25 Ejets. You most definitely said ExpressJet was going to take the Ejets away from us. Do you need me to find the post?

I have never posted on Delta’s or American’s forum. Maybe, you need to worry about the Ejets that you think ExpressJet is taking away from Mesa.

I never spent time stalking SkyWest’s forum like you have. I post on Mesa’s and then on ExpressJet’s forum only because you were posting here. I do go to GoJet’s forum. Someone has to lose CRJ700’s.

I have probably stated that there is a chance that some could be moved over once the 5 year term is over. I still believe that is a possibility. They could also be given to Republic.

You have more than stated that. And, why would United give them to Republic?

Go get a life dude. Done arguing.

Can’t you guys just play nice? I’m wasting precious seconds scrolling through your arguments!