Mesa's UAX Contract
09-27-2009 | 12:42 PM
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I don't believe the Mesa DH8 operation's costs are anywhere near that of a Q400. The Q4's acquisition costs are very high - these are $16 - $18 million dollar birds, whereas the YV Dash 8 Q200s are worth $7 million new.
As I understand it, the Dash 8 fleet is at a solid 12 - and there aren't any other planes that can effective service the PHX and DEN markets better.
I believe Commutair may be the only suitable option - and they're flying the "old" Horizon Q200s for Continental right now.
As I understand it, the Dash 8 fleet is at a solid 12 - and there aren't any other planes that can effective service the PHX and DEN markets better.
I believe Commutair may be the only suitable option - and they're flying the "old" Horizon Q200s for Continental right now.
09-27-2009 | 01:09 PM
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Just curious because I have heard that Mesa will be furloughing a few hundred pilots, unfortunately, and I wonder if this is because they think they will lose the contract. Can Mesa hold on if they lose the UAX contract, at least the CRJ-200 part of it?
09-27-2009 | 01:22 PM
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or united decides to get rid of the Dashes, and just works out a codeshare with RAH...screwing over the UAL pilots.
09-27-2009 | 02:19 PM
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It's been repeated many times that Mesa will file BK if UA cancels the contract. I'd be worried about the ERJ flying with Delta, that could really potentially end Mesa for good or at least make it into a relatively small CRj7/9 regional.
09-27-2009 | 02:27 PM
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well... they do have their Hawaii operations and did Go! in Hawaii report a profit out of all the MESA flying last quarter? So I would agree if they don't go out of business they will be a inter island airline in Hawaii.
09-27-2009 | 04:28 PM
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Delta will pull that the second they file BK. If Delta had it their way the ERJ flying would have be over a long time ago.
09-27-2009 | 04:37 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if UA decides not to renew, isn't Mesa left with a lot of leased airplanes with no home. This would force Mesa into BK, and leave all the contracts with other carriers up for cancellation.
Also, is JO and Mesa trying to avoid a Ch.7 BK since they have so many leased aircraft (no assets) and mounds of debt, which would not work well in a liquidation?
Also, is JO and Mesa trying to avoid a Ch.7 BK since they have so many leased aircraft (no assets) and mounds of debt, which would not work well in a liquidation?
09-27-2009 | 04:40 PM
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Exactly. This is one of the reasons why mesa has been trading below a dollar and why so many think the company is worthless. Does Mesa even have enough cash to get out of BK??
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