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meah 04-12-2014 08:05 PM

MESA no interview. This is for the press
 
MESA airlines is hiring people to fly your family around with no interview. This thread will be referenced at some point. Sorry for your loss...

FaceBiter 04-12-2014 08:07 PM

Not to mention the guy making the phone calls is hopped up on roids.

air101 04-12-2014 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1622291)
Not to mention the guy making the phone calls is hopped up on roids.

How else do you think they are able to get people in the door...anyone and everyone welcome as long as you can pick up a phone. Quite disgusting really that they have to lower their standards so low just to staff flying they obviously aren't able to.

prior121 04-12-2014 08:53 PM

The interview is in PHX.

Mesa fozjared and the roid forums fozjared are not one of the same. I met the Mesa fozjared. Def not one who has ever done roids.

Your putting a lot of energy at talking about Mesa. If you want to work here so bad just apply meah.

PilotJ3 04-12-2014 08:58 PM


MESA airlines is hiring people to fly your family around with no interview. This thread will be referenced at some point. Sorry for your loss...
But but, what about the fast upgrade and the 175s???? That's the most important thing!!!

FaceBiter 04-12-2014 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1622311)
The interview is in PHX.

Mesa fozjared and the roid forums fozjared are not one of the same. I met the Mesa fozjared. Def not one who has ever done roids.

Your putting a lot of energy at talking about Mesa. If you want to work here so bad just apply meah.


He is the same guy. Believe it or not he's lost a bunch of weight. He was losing the weight and roiding it up while learning to fly.

Blackwing 04-12-2014 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by meah (Post 1622290)
MESA airlines is hiring people to fly your family around with no interview. This thread will be referenced at some point. Sorry for your loss...

Interviews don't prove squat. Still gotta pass training and the checkride.

ClarenceOver 04-12-2014 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 1622316)
Interviews don't prove squat. Still gotta pass training and the checkride.

Don't worry they will do that over the phone too.

Paid2fly 04-12-2014 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1622312)
But but, what about the fast upgrade and the 175s???? That's the most important thing!!!









I've heard the engines are even under the wing!!!

FaceBiter 04-12-2014 09:19 PM

Thinking about offering a service.

I'll take the phone interview for guys who don't speak English and want to fly the 175.

What do you think I could charge?

Navmode 04-12-2014 09:29 PM

Is there nothing better to do in the horizon crew room than crying about mesa day after day?

minimwage4 04-12-2014 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1622322)
Thinking about offering a service.

I'll take the phone interview for guys who don't speak English and want to fly the 175.

What do you think I could charge?

Two hundred

Jet87 04-12-2014 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by prior121 (Post 1622311)
The interview is in PHX.

Mesa fozjared and the roid forums fozjared are not one of the same. I met the Mesa fozjared. Def not one who has ever done roids.

Your putting a lot of energy at talking about Mesa. If you want to work here so bad just apply meah.

No, it's the same guy. Guys like him who have no idea what they are doing will take whatever to help them get in shape without having to actually work. You guys have to admit it's pretty embarrassing to have him be a Mesa recruiter. I met him Salt Lake during his SkyWest interview, and I see why SkyWest sent him home early in the interview.

Cruz5350 04-12-2014 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 1622324)
Is there nothing better to do in the horizon crew room than crying about mesa day after day?

Nobody at Horizon gives a damn about what Mesa does they're too busy enjoying making a decent wage with excellent benefits and a decent retirement to care what you all do.

Paid2fly 04-12-2014 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1622312)
But but, what about the fast upgrade and the 175s???? That's the most important thing!!!










Don't forget how very shiny they are!!

Navmode 04-12-2014 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Cruz5350 (Post 1622331)
Nobody at Horizon gives a damn about what Mesa does they're too busy enjoying making a decent wage with excellent benefits and a decent retirement to care what you all do.

I'm just going off of how many times mesa crossed your mind and came out of your mouth the last two days; which shows otherwise.

NoJoy 04-12-2014 11:55 PM

He forgot to mention the 10+ year upgrade though. The FO's that make it to Alaska are the real lucky ones. ;)

lakehouse 04-13-2014 02:24 AM

To say I never worked at Mesa is worth it's weight in gold to me.

121again 04-13-2014 03:01 AM

I see spuzzyair is back from his ban.

RV5M 04-13-2014 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by meah (Post 1622290)
MESA airlines is hiring people to fly your family around with no interview. This thread will be referenced at some point. Sorry for your loss...

What? Did you start drinking then decide to go on a rampage after our reasonable discussion in the Mesa thread. Are you mad because you didn't pass the Mesa non-interview?

I was interviewed for almost three hours and had an internal rec.

Doesn't XJT only conduct a personality interview? I got my 135 job without a sim or tech interview and flew pax to all kinds of crazy places as a 1200 hour captain, and Amflight has been giving phone offers recently to do probably one of the most difficult jobs in flying. Pretty sure this is all commonplace.

Maybe you should break out the Google, meah, and learn a little about your industry.

RV5M 04-13-2014 04:02 AM

Is it really that upsetting to people when they talk to Mesa pilots and find that they aren't disgruntled jerks begging to move on that they have to come to APC and bash the company?

CBreezy 04-13-2014 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622358)
What? Did you start drinking then decide to go on a rampage after our reasonable discussion in the Mesa thread. Are you mad because you didn't pass the Mesa non-interview?

I was interviewed for almost three hours and had an internal rec.

Doesn't XJT only conduct a personality interview? I got my 135 job without a sim or tech interview and flew pax to all kinds of crazy places as a 1200 hour captain, and Amflight has been giving phone offers recently to do probably one of the most difficult jobs in flying. Pretty sure this is all commonplace.

Maybe you should break out the Google, meah, and learn a little about your industry.


XJet requires you take the Delta test which includes a very thorough aviation knowledge section.

Ameriflight has done phone interviews and once you pass it, you have to fly a sim to acceptable standards. My friend who was hired very recently has to shoot an NDB approach.

You are spouting misinformation. Why are you here fighting with trolls about how bad your contract is (it's terrible) or how laughable your company's hiring practices are (a pulse and ATP mins)?

121again 04-13-2014 04:49 AM

So much faux outrage. :rolleyes:

RV5M 04-13-2014 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1622369)
XJet requires you take the Delta test which includes a very thorough aviation knowledge section.

Ameriflight has done phone interviews and once you pass it, you have to fly a sim to acceptable standards. My friend who was hired very recently has to shoot an NDB approach.

You are spouting misinformation. Why are you here fighting with trolls about how bad your contract is (it's terrible) or how laughable your company's hiring practices are (a pulse and ATP mins)?

Yes, I've seen the Delta test.

Amflight offered me a job after an over the phone interview. I would have had to pass the sim in training, but not as a prelim screening. This is true for one of my former colleagues as well, who now flies for them.

I'm defending Mesa because I work here and to counter all of the crazy misinformation on this site. When a class of new hires comes through and I see that they're a group of interesting folks with a wide range if experiences, that's a good thing, and people who are considering Mesa should know about it.

CBreezy 04-13-2014 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622380)
Yes, I've seen the Delta test.

Amflight offered me a job after an over the phone interview. I would have had to pass the sim in training, but not as a prelim screening. This is true for one of my former colleagues as well, who now flies for them.

I'm defending Mesa because I work here and to counter all of the crazy misinformation on this site. When a class of new hires comes through and I see that they're a group of interesting folks with a wide range if experiences, that's a good thing, and people who are considering Mesa should know about it.

So you're management.

To counter, my friend, hired within the year, had to take a screening sim evaluation, not a training sim, as a condition of employment.

People should know that your pay scale is an embarrassment and by going to Mesa, you are encouraging the company to continue to pay near poverty-level wages to new FOs for well over 2 years. It takes 5 years to get paid what an FO at almost every other airline makes after year 1 or 2.

But hey, as long as you guys are happy with it and not disgruntled. Oh, and by the way, the two least disgruntled pilot groups on this site, by far, are also the two worst paid. It must a correlation between pilots who are willing to accept jobs for less than their value and those who are KoolAid drinking yes-men.

RV5M 04-13-2014 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1622381)
So you're management.

To counter, my friend, hired within the year, had to take a screening sim evaluation, not a training sim, as a condition of employment.

People should know that your pay scale is an embarrassment and by going to Mesa, you are encouraging the company to continue to pay near poverty-level wages to new FOs for well over 2 years. It takes 5 years to get paid what an FO at almost every other airline makes after year 1 or 2.

But hey, as long as you guys are happy with it and not disgruntled. Oh, and by the way, the two least disgruntled pilot groups on this site, by far, are also the two worst paid. It must a correlation between pilots who are willing to accept jobs for less than their value and those who are KoolAid drinking yes-men.


To think that a manager would come on here and post, especially as frequently as I do, is crazy. I'm an FO. I choose to be here. When I don't want to be here any more, I'll leave instead of crying about wages I chose to earn.

Mods: Can we merge this with one of the two other Mesa threads currently in progress?

8ballfreight 04-13-2014 05:39 AM

Yes it is obscure and weird in our times of working hard to be likable in an interview, but with all our certificates and prior tests, is it really so strange for it to be done this way if they want to?
Don't worry about it.

Beech90 04-13-2014 05:54 AM

How long does it take to get a call from Mesa after applying?

RV5M 04-13-2014 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by Beech90 (Post 1622391)
How long does it take to get a call from Mesa after applying?

Can you re-ask this question in the Mesa or Mesa Hiring thread?

FerrisBluer 04-13-2014 06:22 AM

Meah, you have 13 total posts several of which you introduced yourself to APC. You joined in April and now you're dumping out multiple posts/threads on mesa's apparent hiring practices? Here's a few in case you had forgotten you had posted these in another thread?


Originally Posted by meah (Post 1621685)
Is anybody concerned about the practice of hiring pilots without interviewing them?


Originally Posted by meah (Post 1621739)
No if that's how I came across I'm sorry. It's going to let make it easier for people to slip by that normally wouldn't have a chance. I have met a bunch or great Mesa pilots. The problem will manifest in about 2 years. This is when some of the non interviewed will upgrade and who know who they will have in their right seat.

Sorry I had to edit this. So if you interviewed at silver or endeavor or somewhere else and were hired that's good enough to skip a personality eval at Mesa?! That's a joke right?


Originally Posted by meah (Post 1621724)
The most important part of the interview is the personality evaluation. Not specifically some type of computer/written test. This is accomplished by speaking with the human applicant face to face. Any chimp can be taught how to push buttons and eat a burrito with their hot mic on. I guess it doesn't really matter because Mesa is now scraping the bottom of the feces bucket with this type of practice.

What's your story? I see you're former piedmont, why did you runoff on them to fly CRJ's? Why all this pent up passion for MAG to stop hiring in a fashion that you merely feel is unacceptable?

I somewhat see concern and the past might be doomed to repeat itself. However, sounds like you want more pageantry and fanfare?

:cool:

I'm really still hoping i get a godd*mn chimp to fly with! It be way cooler than flying with any of ya'lls ass*s.:p Eat some burritos and talk sh*t about those muthafuggin o-Rang-a-Tangs!

prior121 04-13-2014 06:24 AM

Good grief.

Slats 04-13-2014 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622380)

I'm defending Mesa because I work here and to counter all of the crazy misinformation on this site. When a class of new hires comes through and I see that they're a group of interesting folks with a wide range if experiences, like DUI's, checkrides busts, and guys who know how to use steroid cycles, it's a good thing.

Fixed it for ya :)

RV5M 04-13-2014 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1622401)
Fixed it for ya :)

I'm sure many of us are lucky to have never received a DUI. Not everyone grew up in white, good 'ol boy, look the other way America.

IBPilot 04-13-2014 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622411)
I'm sure many of us are lucky to have never received a DUI. Not everyone grew up in white, good 'ol boy, look the other way America.

did you really just make this a racial issue? seriously? wow. Sad. Pathetic actually.

SWAblue 04-13-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622411)
I'm sure many of us are lucky to have never received a DUI.

Yeah, Luck had everything to do with that.

And it is not fair if you did get caught. Right? No airline needs to interview a person to get a feel of one persons perspective of accountability. Because it doesn't matter!

After fifteen years on the interview team and almost thirty years in the airlines, it really does matter. And someday you will see it too. Or you will just be fooling yourself.

This airline is at least the first to not care who they put in their airplanes to represent their product. It shows their place in the industry and it is not going unnoticed.

When you start hiring others that could not get a job anywhere else after they were properly screened, is there any other simple conclusion one could make? No. Not interviewing well is not a valid excuse. Most likely their personality did not qualify.

God help us all.

Cruz5350 04-13-2014 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Navmode (Post 1622334)
I'm just going off of how many times mesa crossed your mind and came out of your mouth the last two days; which shows otherwise.

Bringing to light what I've found out over the last few days hardly qualifies as having nothing better to say while at work. It's a big deal and I get people not wanting to believe it since it strikes at those who work there. I wouldn't want to work with a Captain or FO that knowingly lied to get his job even if they passed training. It says a lot about their character and they most likely caught a lucky break in training due to the need to staff.

aTomatoFlames 04-13-2014 08:14 AM

I received an offer from Mesa with no interview, not even a phone call. I just received an email about a week after I published my app asking why I haven't signed my offer letter yet. It is happening.

CBreezy 04-13-2014 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by RV5M (Post 1622411)
I'm sure many of us are lucky to have never received a DUI. Not everyone grew up in white, good 'ol boy, look the other way America.

Hahah! Either that was laced in saracasm or you're a complete...well, let's just say you belong at Mesa.

There is NEVER an excuse to drink and drive. Too many people have been killed by that selfish and moronic thought. If you (the royal you) choose to drink more than the legal limit, get behind the wheel, and then get caught, you deserve way worse than you've gotten. I wouldn't be opposed to you losing a permanent revocation of your ATP over it.

Flightsoffusion 04-13-2014 09:27 AM

Just a thought,

Arguing on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics,
Even if you win, you're still retarded..

Bassman1985 04-13-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by aTomatoFlames (Post 1622439)
I received an offer from Mesa with no interview, not even a phone call. I just received an email about a week after I published my app asking why I haven't signed my offer letter yet. It is happening.

I received this same email last week. Haven't even contacted them at all besides shotgunning AirlineApps. I thought it was a joke until I heard about others on apc with the same story.


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