Serious talk.

Why gojet or Mesa?

Do you have DUI's, 3+ ck ride busts, 709's, bad credit, wrecked an airplane, a felony conviction, 121 training failure, or no college?

Just asking because everywhere is hiring right now.

Why would you shoot for the bottom of the barrel right off the bat?

CPZ, Horizon, Whisky, SKW are all trying to fill classes.

You need to ask the question to yourself. Why Mesa? Didn't your work for Mesa? The talk is that you couldn't make it through IOE after 80 hours. The FAA mins are 25 hours and the average is 40-50 with no jet experience. The most important question is, what are you doing flying for a 121 carrier? You have no business being in airplane. I am surprised that a company like SkyWest would hire something like you. If I were you, I would quit flying all together and find something that would be less dangerous to yourself and others. Did someone put a gun to your head to go to Mesa? The fact that you couldn't make it through IOE is your own damn fault. You can't blame Mesa nor the check airman for your stupidity.

As the saying goes, "Some birds were not meant to fly".


God Bless

Whoa broseph. I know things are rough over there, no need for the hostility and storytelling.

Be well. Maybe you shoud talk to someone.

I'm new here so I'm not familiar with your past that has been alluded too.... PM me if you wish.

I'm not saying I'm shooting for the bottom of the barrel. I'm applying numerous places, but wanted to know if only Mesa and GoJet come a calling, which would be best?
Just because CPZ and SKW are hiring doesn't mean I'm a shoo-in. I have no DUI, but you're still not guaranteed anything.

PM me if you'd prefer, but if you didn't make it through IOE, is the training department deficient? Has that happened to others?

Do yourself a favor and go to a wholly owned.

Reasons for Mesa:

The good.....growing, not reducing. Good training department, no check airmen that are bad. East coast base to soon to be West coast base. With the amount of upgrades, you'll be able to hold out West 6-9 months from starting. Laid back crews for the most part, but I'm in IAD, so the others could be different. Hiring for the emb175, which if you want to go overseas is a great type rating to have. I fly the CRJ700 most of the time, which I enjoy.

The bad.....low pay. Nickel and dime us on other stuff that should have no cost. Hotels are usually by the airport. Some are bad, others are great. Schedules have gotten better, but that might depend where you are based. IAD schedules have a decent amount of days off, not sure about the other bases, but I don't think they are as good. We have ready reserve, some others don't.

This help any?

Can you divulge why someone should consider wholly owned instead the others? Thanks!

He believes the wholly owned regionals like Endeavor and Envoy will become the pets of their respective major, instead of the abused red-headed step-children they get treated like currently.

yes, very much - thanks!

Haha I've noticed that every time someone points out that you washed out of Mesa training you respond with "whoa broseph..." That is just too cute.

The IOE washout explains so many things. The funny thing is you imply that people only go to Mesa because of their lack of abilities, yet that's the very thing that apparently kept you out. But I'm glad you got a second chance elsewhere so you can still feel like you're a better pilot than everyone at Mesa. Maybe you washed out because you were just too good and the check airmen were threatened by your SKW pilot caliber skills. Ironoooooony.

At least you've obviously taken it all in stride and have been able to move on with your life... Glad it's not haunting you and you at least are man enough to not blame others for your failures and don't hold a grudge. Good job, brosephine.