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Originally Posted by prior121
(Post 2101757)
Couldn't have asked in the Mesa thread? This really deserves it's own thread? This speaks volumes to the type of people we are getting now.....
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Originally Posted by buffalopilot
(Post 2102051)
Can someone please explain to me again what the problem with Mesa Airlines is? Phone interviews? The only thing a company can't find out with a phone interview is what you look like. Low starting pay? Every company was there until recently. Filling classes with pilots that other regionals don't want? Everyone has to pass the same training process. I fly with a car dealer who says, "Why pay more if you don't have to?" If Mesa found a way to keep classes full without increasing pay, why would they pay more? It doesn't make sense to.
I think all starting pilots should get paid more, absolutely. But, what exactly is the hostility toward Mesa? |
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 2101972)
What do they give you in training? The Air?
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 2102081)
How about the fact alone that you have to purchase your own damn iPad!
My gf once put the Netflix app on the iPad, and I was called into the office the next day for questioning. Apprently, the FAA approved them for use only with certain, pre approved apps installed. At Mesa, you are free to do anything you want with the iPad. |
Originally Posted by buffalopilot
(Post 2102051)
Can someone please explain to me again what the problem with Mesa Airlines is? Phone interviews? The only thing a company can't find out with a phone interview is what you look like. Low starting pay? Every company was there until recently. Filling classes with pilots that other regionals don't want? Everyone has to pass the same training process. I fly with a car dealer who says, "Why pay more if you don't have to?" If Mesa found a way to keep classes full without increasing pay, why would they pay more? It doesn't make sense to.
I think all starting pilots should get paid more, absolutely. But, what exactly is the hostility toward Mesa? |
Originally Posted by iFlyRC
(Post 2102140)
Either they washed out of Mesa training, or work at Envoy / Skywest. Envoy / Skywest people have a superiority complex, and look down at anyone who does their same exact job that didn't have the same ridiculous, outdated, and inefficient vetting process they went through. They will also look down at you because you are "initially" paid less than them. They are typically short sighted and can't grasp the idea that you will make much more than them after you upgrade. I upgraded in 18 months, while at Envoy I'd be capped at 40$ after 4 years. Making 68$ hr at 4th year pay at Mesa? Oh yeh, collecting TPIC while they are racking up that valuable SIC time...
Hate and frustration are powerful motivators. Go to Mesa and your pain will be there, albeit for a shorter calendar period. The faster you get through the regional slog, the faster you start building seniority at a major. Seniority at a regional is like Monopoly money, it's fun, but essentially worthless. Go to a regional and get comfortable, you will be giving away vast earning potential and precious seniority positions. Crash pad + Mesa= high speed, low drag career path, live at mom and dads in domicile- loss of several million dollars at the end of your career, but at lest you will have mad video game skillz. |
Originally Posted by iFlyRC
(Post 2102140)
ridiculous, outdated, and inefficient vetting process
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Originally Posted by 20sx
(Post 2102015)
And I've heard the ipad 2 won't be supported much longer by Jepp.
I have a 2 and I'm waiting for that thing to quit being supported by Jepp. I'm not buying another one, and I'm pretty sure that the company does't offer paper charts anymore...yet they aren't going to offer any support or financial assistance to current employees. Your move Mesa...you can't force me to buy a new one, and if you don't offer the paper charts anymore I'm not sure how I'll be legal to fly. :cool::p |
Originally Posted by fastback
(Post 2102159)
By all of this you are referring to an "interview"?
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
(Post 2101980)
Rectal warts......
Well played!:D |
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