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daOldMan 12-04-2016 09:57 AM

If you really want to get the company's attention, don't picket.

Instead, host a mini "job fair". Rent a conference room or a hotel ballroom. Ask some of the other regionals that pay better and LCC's to come and interview Mesa pilots on site.

Could you imagine what would happen if Piedmont, PSA, Envoy, Allegiant, Spirit, and Endeavor all showed up and hired 200 Mesa pilots in a single day!

Have letters of resignation already typed up.

Blackwing 12-04-2016 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2255422)
I'm sorry, but everyone in this industry has a CHOICE to where you want to work, now more than ever. Some people choose MESA, the easy way out - no interview. You CHOSE to work at a company with the worst contract, poverty wages, a training contract, zero career progression, the absolute worst healthcare, laughable retirement, and agreed to all this with the company. What, just to say you fly an EJET? You undercut everyone else in the industry in the process. Now y'all want to complain and picket? Give me a break.


So lemme get your argument straight: Mesa's contract sucks; therefore, Mesa pilots don't have a right to try to improve their contract.

Seriously?

You, sir, are clueless.

Duct Mon 12-04-2016 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Blackwing (Post 2255667)
So lemme get your argument straight: Mesa's contract sucks; therefore, Mesa pilots don't have a right to try to improve their contract.

Seriously?

You, sir, are clueless.

He's not only clueless but desperate and resentful. He should let it go and move on.

Celeste 12-04-2016 09:19 PM

I don't understand why ANYONE has gone there in the last year or two. Anyone that did knew what they were signing up for, and had a choice of many other places with significantly higher pay and better work rules.

The people that got stuck at Mesa during the lost decade are another story. Jumping ship to the flavor of the month regional when you have seniority somewhere is a gamble, so I can't blame them for sticking around.

With that being said, anything mesa can do to improve QOL and pay pushes this industry in the direction it needs to go and helps us all in the end.

Duct Mon 12-05-2016 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Celeste (Post 2255980)
I don't understand why ANYONE has gone there in the last year or two. Anyone that did knew what they were signing up for, and had a choice of many other places with significantly higher pay and better work rules.

The people that got stuck at Mesa during the lost decade are another story. Jumping ship to the flavor of the month regional when you have seniority somewhere is a gamble, so I can't blame them for sticking around.

With that being said, anything mesa can do to improve QOL and pay pushes this industry in the direction it needs to go and helps us all in the end.

I agree with you. Yes, the pilots who have come here in the last couple years knew exactly what they were in for. My opinion is, we could have negotiated a lot sooner and better if we weren't filling classes with these new hires chasing shiny jets and upgrades. That being said it's the state of the industry. The new hires we have had in the last year have been jumping ship to chase the money at Envoy, PSA and Endeavor. I don't blame them. In the end the Mesa Pilot group as a whole deserve a better contract.

Duct Mon 12-05-2016 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by SMACFUM (Post 2255478)
^ This!!! You made your choice, now live with it. You knew EXACTLY what you were getting into signing up with Mesa.

Mesa pilot group is not just the new hires. It's over 1300 pilots. More than 700-800 have been here long enough to deserve a new contract.

VanDriver208 12-05-2016 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by dontcare4U (Post 2255613)
Yeah, screw them for trying to improve their work place. Glad all of you are on board to help them out.... Sad.


Exactly! Thanks for the unity you jacka$$es!

Metering 12-05-2016 12:34 PM

I would love to help and picket but I am working that day!

SUX4U 12-07-2016 09:17 PM

Mesa isn't going anywhere regardless of how much you guys bad mouth them or how many pilots leave a month. They haven proven to be the cockroach that survived a nuclear blast.

With that said, it would most likely benefit every regional guy to support Mesa pilots making a significant gain in pay, benefits and QOL for all pilots there and those to come in the future.

Good luck to all Mesa pilots!

alphasierra01 12-08-2016 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 2258345)
Mesa isn't going anywhere regardless of how much you guys bad mouth them or how many pilots leave a month. They haven proven to be the cockroach that survived a nuclear blast.

With that said, it would most likely benefit every regional guy to support Mesa pilots making a significant gain in pay, benefits and QOL for all pilots there and those to come in the future.

Good luck to all Mesa pilots!

Somewhat agreed. Not reflective of the pilots. Great pilot group, scumbag management. And it is that culture that flows down from the top. The pilot group definitely deserves better!


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