After my 2 years there some 12 years ago I totally agree with the management comment. However, just because management is scummy doesn't mean the pilots can't make the place a bit more tolerable. That's why it's important to support the guys and gals there that are trying to finally get that place up to speed in the regional world.

Anyone actually show up to this thing?

How'd it go? JO give you a raise yet?

Apparently you'd didn't show up

Mesa would have to double every work rule and all pay, that is not happening. So why support those that take a job at the company, the senior guys there have never fought for a wage. Every me they've had has sucked(don't want to Rock the boat)

I remember that time they signed the crap contract, and they tried to say industry leading!!!!!!

Picketing has no effect on Jo and all the mai line partners will take the tiny guys picketing, because they love the dirt cheap company.

I wish it would, but let's be realistic. Hell how long has it been and they're just now picketing. Mec probably went to Jo and said hey the group is getting upset, Jo replied OK, let's pick a week where nobody is flying(this week) and let them do a picket at the airport.

Your pay sucks, but your benefits and rules suck, that hurt's the industry more.

I take it you are at a regional right now, correct? If that is the case would you find it reasonable for all of us at United, Delta, AA, SWA to ridicule you if you take a job at Frontier or Spirit? Or would you rather us acknowledge your pay needs to be better and support your efforts to improve things while treating you like a professional adult should?

I don't know all the in's and out's of the Mesa CBA and how much it lags other regionals. I do know there are some low life's their just as their are some really great guys that make up the pilot group. It's easy for you to sit and judge an entire pilot group for working there. You have no idea what their circumstances are. Maybe they couldn't get hired at your super special regional. Maybe they didn't want to commute from a junior Mesa base to your super special regional base. Maybe they were long term FO's from Expressjet or Republic that needed an out to finally get PIC time and a bit more pay compared to their dead end FO seat. Whatever their reasons are it's their life that they will live with.

As far as your BS comment of Mesa hurting the regionals... get real man. Majority of regional guys seem to be making tons of cash compared to the last 10 years right? You have how many regionals with straight up flows to AA and career path programs to United as well that werent options several years ago. Looks to me like everyone else seems to be doing just fine regardless of what Mesa pilots are bringing home.

Where are you getting $2/hour. Mesa is $20/hour cheaper than anyone. FO's at other regional make more than capt at Mesa.

Where are you getting your numbers? I don't see a $20/hr difference