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Sliceback 01-07-2018 09:21 AM

1. Yes

2. Yes.
2. You might get called before upgrade. No perfect answer.

3. Majors. Not required for regionals.

4. 100 hrs currency in the last year can be a help for the Big3/4. Maybe a deal breaker, maybe not. No perfect clarity in that answer. I know a couple of staff guys that retired who’d had flown GA a/c 100hrs in the previous year to meet the 100hr trigger.

4. MEL might be a hiring requirement.
4. Additional ratings might be a GI bill way to get 100 hrs currency in previous the 12 months. That’s a major airline requirement and not an issue for a regional job(they’re hiring guys who haven’t flown in years).

155mm 01-07-2018 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2497630)
Rather than starting a new thread, I thought I'd ask for some career advice here. Please offer your opinion on some or all of my questions. My goal is to get hired at a legacy, SWA, or FedEx. Thank you in advance.

Hours:
900 hrs FW multi engine tac-air
200 hrs T-45
50 hrs T-34
80 hrs gen aviation
1230 TT, ~900 PIC.

Ratings: FAA Commercial + Instrument rating.

Timeline: Getting out in 12-18 months, expecting less than 60 more hours military PIC time by then.

Questions:

1. Am I competitive for a regional?
2. Should I consider regionals with fast upgrade times, or would I likely get the call before qualifying for upgrade?
3. Should I use interview prep companies (Cage, ECIC, RST, Career Takeoff) prior to applying for a regional, or are those better done closer to the major interview?

I'm considering ways to make myself more marketable for a major airline.

4. Is earning a CFI, CFII, and MEI rating worth the time, effort, and money in the next 12 months?

Studying and working for a CFI rating would help sharpen FAA knowledge, build hours and experience, but I'm unaware if it would really help on a major airline application. Any better ways to make myself marketable?

My take:
1. Skip the CFI and go for a Regional (Restricted ATP for military pilots).
2. You are going to need 1000 hours (some mil time may count) at a regional to upgrade anyway so pick a regional with great equipment, good pay, good domicile, pays for ATP-CTP program, and even a flow through program.
3. Regionals want warm bodies so interview prep is okay but I would save my money by finding the gouge. Buy a FAR/AIM and a GLEIM ATP written exam study book. https://www.gleimaviation.com/shop/atp/

SpringLanding 01-07-2018 09:41 AM

Baba, Sliceback, 155mm--

Thanks. It sounds like the cost and effort to get a CFI may help with min hour requirements, but will not be a game-changer on a major application once I'm hired at a regional.

Any others with an opinion?

155mm 01-07-2018 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2497659)
Baba, Sliceback, 155mm--

Thanks. It sounds like the cost and effort to get a CFI may help with min hour requirements, but will not be a game-changer on a major application once I'm hired at a regional.

Any others with an opinion?

If you were an IP, there is a mil comp exam (MCI) a little paperwork and bingo you're a CFI!
Sheppard Air Flight Test 5.0 Prep Software ATP, Flight Engineer, Mil Comp - FAA Airline Transport Pilot

SpringLanding 01-07-2018 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by 155mm (Post 2497665)
If you were an IP, there is a mil comp exam (MCI) a little paperwork and bingo you're a CFI!
Sheppard Air Flight Test 5.0 Prep Software ATP, Flight Engineer, Mil Comp - FAA Airline Transport Pilot

Thank you, but unfortunately I was not. That would make getting a CFII much easier.

AV81596 01-08-2018 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by SpringLanding (Post 2497666)
Thank you, but unfortunately I was not. That would make getting a CFII much easier.

CFI, CFII, and MEI are all extra points when your app is scored. May make the difference in a crunch to get to the interview. I would work towards anything (within reason) that would make me more competitive. It seems for transitioning military folks, getting the 121 time with a regional shows dedication and motivation to the career, and is valued by the majors. YMMV. Good luck.

rickair7777 01-08-2018 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2377625)

Second, there's no such thing as "centerline thrust multiengine time". All 700 of his Hornet hours are just plain "multiengine time".

Correct. Centerline thrust is only applicable to a pilot rating.

Chillpill 01-08-2018 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by 155mm (Post 2497665)
If you were an IP, there is a mil comp exam (MCI) a little paperwork and bingo you're a CFI!
Sheppard Air Flight Test 5.0 Prep Software ATP, Flight Engineer, Mil Comp - FAA Airline Transport Pilot

Can you get an MCI even if you were not a schoolhouse IP? Do airlines ask how much instructor time you logged?

Hacker15e 01-09-2018 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Chillpill (Post 2498515)
Can you get an MCI even if you were not a schoolhouse IP? Do airlines ask how much instructor time you logged?

Yes, all that's required is the instructor qualification paperwork (e.g. Form 8), which squadron IPs get, too.

All the airline apps I know of ask for IP/Dual given somewhere on the app.

pony172 01-10-2018 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Chillpill (Post 2498515)
Can you get an MCI even if you were not a schoolhouse IP? Do airlines ask how much instructor time you logged?

For you Naval types, you should be able to get an MCI if you have a NATOPS Instructor or Instrument Evaluator in your jacket. Call your FSDO first to see what they want. If there is a former MIL inspector there they can help tremendously. Opinions can vary greatly between FSDO's. This is one of the best good deals out there.


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