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Perry1990 05-23-2019 07:32 PM

ANG Pilot hours
 
How quickly would an ANG C 17 pilot get 1500 hours?

galaxy flyer 05-23-2019 08:04 PM

He’d only need 750 after UPT. Probably 2 years.


GF

C17B74 05-25-2019 10:00 PM

If you want it bad enough - It really depends on your attitude. Be the person who flies everything when called or not called/volunteer. Good trips, bad trips, doesn’t matter - it’s all great experience. Scheduling sometimes uses good trips to rope in the senior airline folks, but they need co-pilots too - good tactic. Do more locals than just remaining current, do more and be proficient. Currency and Proficiency are two different animals. If you have another job it will be much tougher to be that guy. I myself Guard Bummed for almost 3 years (then hired as a GS-13), but it was to support my family and gain experience. You must answer that phone, I was that guy... (not required anymore)

You can’t be the “well I have plans”, “not this weekend”, “it’s a holiday weekend” Guard Bums hang around scheduling, it’s just that way and definitely the most expeditious way.

Enjoy life now vs enjoy life later, or balance it as you see fit and enjoy the experience getting there - no wrong answer it’s all up to you.

Once you affirm your status as hungry, scheduling will start calling you first!

Caveat - Other factors: How good is your current ops on snagging trips quarterly during their bid process and last minute trips that are dropped down to your unit? How many other Guard Bums are there? Are there short term order sets available that are dedicated flying?

Timing is everything in the end. Roped in 850 as my highest, but a couple others managed a few more back in the day. Today’s climate is much different, but just keep watching the news cuz ya never know!

Herkyjerky 12-08-2019 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 2826455)
If you want it bad enough - It really depends on your attitude. Be the person who flies everything when called or not called/volunteer. Good trips, bad trips, doesn’t matter - it’s all great experience. Scheduling sometimes uses good trips to rope in the senior airline folks, but they need co-pilots too - good tactic. Do more locals than just remaining current, do more and be proficient. Currency and Proficiency are two different animals. If you have another job it will be much tougher to be that guy. I myself Guard Bummed for almost 3 years (then hired as a GS-13), but it was to support my family and gain experience. You must answer that phone, I was that guy... (not required anymore)

You can’t be the “well I have plans”, “not this weekend”, “it’s a holiday weekend” Guard Bums hang around scheduling, it’s just that way and definitely the most expeditious way.

Enjoy life now vs enjoy life later, or balance it as you see fit and enjoy the experience getting there - no wrong answer it’s all up to you.

Once you affirm your status as hungry, scheduling will start calling you first!

Caveat - Other factors: How good is your current ops on snagging trips quarterly during their bid process and last minute trips that are dropped down to your unit? How many other Guard Bums are there? Are there short term order sets available that are dedicated flying?

Timing is everything in the end. Roped in 850 as my highest, but a couple others managed a few more back in the day. Today’s climate is much different, but just keep watching the news cuz ya never know!

Good information

gollum 12-09-2019 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by galaxy flyer (Post 2825360)
He’d only need 750 after UPT. Probably 2 years.


GF

Why after UPT? the 750 hour restricted ATP includes UPT hours. So only really needs 550'ish hours.

Liketoflyjets 12-17-2019 07:16 PM

In my experience 15-20 years gets your 3-4k hours...

But if you worked the system, stiff armed EVERYTHING that didn't get you hours you wanted...i think 5-10 years is doable for 1500 hrs. Don't forget you will be getting **** ton of secondary time :) You will want to upgrade to IP in after 3-4 years for sure. Tell me more about YOUR background and I can shuffle the deck better...

Every...single...pilot...down to the last one gets between 100-200 hrs per years in the USAF...that's standard. Only way you are pushing that is to do BACN deployment or something fancy that is going to turbo boost you for a couple months but that's about it.

rickair7777 12-18-2019 06:31 AM

Yeah, if you're guard and want to be an airline pilot, you'll want build time on the civilian track in parallel... way too much opportunity for seniority progression right now, it would be frankly stupid to kick that can down the road 10-15 years. It might actually be HARD to get airline job then.

goinaround 12-18-2019 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Liketoflyjets (Post 2940922)
In my experience 15-20 years gets your 3-4k hours...

But if you worked the system, stiff armed EVERYTHING that didn't get you hours you wanted...i think 5-10 years is doable for 1500 hrs. Don't forget you will be getting **** ton of secondary time :) You will want to upgrade to IP in after 3-4 years for sure. Tell me more about YOUR background and I can shuffle the deck better...

Every...single...pilot...down to the last one gets between 100-200 hrs per years in the USAF...that's standard. Only way you are pushing that is to do BACN deployment or something fancy that is going to turbo boost you for a couple months but that's about it.

About 6 years ago I was guard bumming and hustling hard. Did 534 hours that year.

Liketoflyjets 12-18-2019 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by goinaround (Post 2941461)
About 6 years ago I was guard bumming and hustling hard. Did 534 hours that year.

Hustling isn't the norm...don't cheat. For ever year you get 300 hrs there are other years you get 150.

AlphaBeta 12-19-2019 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Liketoflyjets (Post 2941466)
Hustling isn't the norm...don't cheat. For ever year you get 300 hrs there are other years you get 150.

You are using old data, my 17 unit has been on orders since 16. Most of the unit is airline guys so we don’t go on mpa orders so the young guys can fly. They are flying about 700 hrs a year. Just had 2 purely guard bums get hired after being on orders since 16, another 3 were regional but on long term mil leave to build pic. 1 just pinned on 0-3 and is now at delta.


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