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MstrAv8r 03-19-2024 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3782409)
The Navy has tried over the years several different programs not requiring a degree. What you are missing is the complexity of the weapon systems the Navy and AirForce employ off aircraft. Flying the aircraft is a means to employ weapons. The Navy and AirFrorce employ far more sophisticated systems and more types. Many of those systems are far more complex than learning to fly the aircraft.

I’d call this flawed logic.

4dalulz 03-20-2024 03:18 AM


Originally Posted by Thruster (Post 3783379)
"Your travel voucher has been stamped RETURNED. $22 taxis are not authorized when crew trans is available."

Interesting - that you think DTS is in command of the VIP fleet.

Pierre Sprey fanboy?

Thruster 03-20-2024 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by 4dalulz (Post 3783424)
Interesting - that you think DTS is in command of the VIP fleet.

Pierre Sprey fanboy?

Hardly. Been a herbivore for a long time. Just a misfire at pointing out budget dust money denials and the hilarity of blowing it on other crap.

rickair7777 03-20-2024 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Lowslung (Post 3782632)
Fair enough, BUT... At least when I left a decade ago, there were a mind boggling number of staff and deployed staff positions that had to be filled by rated officers. After spending years of watching the AF advance the careers of guys who planned Christmas parties and change of command ceremonies, deployed into completely superfluous billets, rode the coattails of mediocre (at best) leaders, and generally spent a ludicrous number of man-hours doing work that was exactly zero value added for the Air Force, I knew it was time to go.

Yes but don't throw out the baby with the bath water... having warfighter equities represented by WARFIGHTERS at all echelons of the defense establishment is priceless. Alternative is that it would be done by what AF folks call non-rated/shoes. Even if not all of those rated staff bodies are fully utilized in those roles, or in some cases not suitable to be fully utilized.

tnkrdrvr 03-20-2024 01:40 PM

Shoe clerks
 

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3783588)
Yes but don't throw out the baby with the bath water... having warfighter equities represented by WARFIGHTERS at all echelons of the defense establishment is priceless. Alternative is that it would be done by what AF folks call non-rated/shoes. Even if not all of those rated staff bodies are fully utilized in those roles, or in some cases not suitable to be fully utilized.

The term is shoe clerk. Yes, we don’t want our staffs manned with shoe clerks who don’t understand how difficult it can be to coordinate a strike package or roll tanker tracks due to wx or unexpected needs. However, we also could approach staff structure a lot wiser than we currently do and chop some deadweight.

Lowslung 03-20-2024 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3783638)
The term is shoe clerk. Yes, we don’t want our staffs manned with shoe clerks who don’t understand how difficult it can be to coordinate a strike package or roll tanker tracks due to wx or unexpected needs. However, we also could approach staff structure a lot wiser than we currently do and chop some deadweight.

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