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10-23-2007 | 07:48 AM
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10-23-2007 | 07:56 AM
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with respect to the question and being about SEALS. I was a hard hat diver and personally know three of us as airline pilots. Also I want to ask about the corpsman comment. I know teams from Hawaii, and while operating in Korea and the PI.
The two corpsman I knew regarding this conversation, they were both Dive Med Techs. One was with SDV's and wore cammies but wore his Med tech dive pin.
What is the real progression for them, I never was concerned then.
I heard there is one at Delta.
The two corpsman I knew regarding this conversation, they were both Dive Med Techs. One was with SDV's and wore cammies but wore his Med tech dive pin.
What is the real progression for them, I never was concerned then.
I heard there is one at Delta.
DMT's can be found at any diving activity including seal teams/SDV/VSW, etc, but they are nor SEAL operators. The seal operator corpsmen do both BUDS and the Army SF Med Tech course. They are SEALs first, and are there mainly to kill people...combat and ISR is their primary job.
Any corpsman who is assigned to the marines will attend a fairly short course in ground-pounder skills and get the 8404 NEC. This is good for any non-diving marine unit. A corpsmen who goes to marine diving activities (force recon) will also need to attend all of the normal recon schools, including the combat diver course, and then he will go to special dive med tech course just for marine diving corpsmen.
The army has few diving activities...my guess is that they don't have enough to support a career path for DMT's, so they borrow them from the navy.
If you really like going to schools, the corpsman rate might be for you.
10-23-2007 | 07:56 AM
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Nope...Just experience in the military. Been stationed on a Army base , a Navy base, and deployed with Marines. 4 years w/ Army on Wiesbaden Air Base. 2 years w/ Navy in Tokyo Bay area, and a 120 day deployment with the Marines (Horn Of Africa).
USAF
Marines
Navy
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Your military experience?
Thanks,
LAFF
USAF
Marines
Navy
Army
Your military experience?
Thanks,
LAFF
10-23-2007 | 08:29 AM
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with respect to the question and being about SEALS. I was a hard hat diver and personally know three of us as airline pilots. Also I want to ask about the corpsman comment. I know teams from Hawaii, and while operating in Korea and the PI.
The two corpsman I knew regarding this conversation, they were both Dive Med Techs. One was with SDV's and wore cammies but wore his Med tech dive pin.
What is the real progression for them, I never was concerned then.
I heard there is one at Delta.
this one is just for the frogs out there to laugh about. We had a corpsman/frog turn up at Polaris point Guam as our new dive corpsman. He wore the Trident and had all the geedunk from survival training and knew all about BUDS, etc.
Well one day in Guam the Sam Houston pulled in and my Med tech buddy with the SDV team says, " Hey I know that guy, he dropped out of BUDS back whenever, he's not a frog."
Turns out he dropped out of BUDS, rang the bell. Rigged his service record to show that he was NEC 8*** whatever and then had an assignment at 29 Palms with some Marine battalion, then was assigned to us. this true med tech questioned him, the bogus guy had just put on E6. The busted him down to E4 took away his Med tech NEC and fake Frog NEC.
crazy
please remember TWA in Lebonan. PO2 Stethem, Hoo ya Deep sea.
The two corpsman I knew regarding this conversation, they were both Dive Med Techs. One was with SDV's and wore cammies but wore his Med tech dive pin.
What is the real progression for them, I never was concerned then.
I heard there is one at Delta.
this one is just for the frogs out there to laugh about. We had a corpsman/frog turn up at Polaris point Guam as our new dive corpsman. He wore the Trident and had all the geedunk from survival training and knew all about BUDS, etc.
Well one day in Guam the Sam Houston pulled in and my Med tech buddy with the SDV team says, " Hey I know that guy, he dropped out of BUDS back whenever, he's not a frog."
Turns out he dropped out of BUDS, rang the bell. Rigged his service record to show that he was NEC 8*** whatever and then had an assignment at 29 Palms with some Marine battalion, then was assigned to us. this true med tech questioned him, the bogus guy had just put on E6. The busted him down to E4 took away his Med tech NEC and fake Frog NEC.
crazy
please remember TWA in Lebonan. PO2 Stethem, Hoo ya Deep sea.
10-23-2007 | 08:37 AM
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10-23-2007 | 09:57 AM
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Nope...Just experience in the military. Been stationed on a Army base , a Navy base, and deployed with Marines. 4 years w/ Army on Wiesbaden Air Base. 2 years w/ Navy in Tokyo Bay area, and a 120 day deployment with the Marines (Horn Of Africa).
USAF
Marines
Navy
Army
Your military experience?
Thanks,
LAFF
USAF
Marines
Navy
Army
Your military experience?
Thanks,
LAFF
I've met far more people who wanted to be Special Ops than who ever were Special Ops. Some are posers who just want the cool tshirt but can't do the gut check to earn it. Some are very talented people whose bodies just couldn't take it, but they went on to do other great things. I've spent time at Lackland and seen just what PJ/CCT indoc does to people's shins/knees. Regardless of heart, the body just doesn't always work. And that is why my advice was, make sure you want to be in the Navy as well as a SEAL, you never know what could happen.
LAFF I'm just curious, you've served in all four branchs, or served with all four? I've been in two, I've meet a few folks who've been in 3, but never actually known anyone to hit all four.
10-23-2007 | 10:43 AM
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The downside to AFSOC is that the ground-pounder duties involve rescuing downed airmen (PJs), doing air traffic control in a combat zone, and possibly forward air control. You will not be assigned to missions where you hunt down and kill/capture bad guys. If you're OK with that and want to get all kinds of action-adventure training, the PJ's would be good.
Due to the lack on ongoing focus on direct action, AFSOC guys are not quite as badass as the army/navy operators.
10-23-2007 | 10:53 AM
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I'm sure there are others here who can answer that better. But with every ODA in the field there is a USAF JTAC, and they do lots and lots of hunting down and killing bad guys.
Fortunately we haven't had many downed airmen, and not doing much ATC in the field--but there is a sh!tload of Forward Air Control.
10-23-2007 | 12:49 PM
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I'm sure glad LAFF is on here to solve all of our decision making for us.
Again, just like flight schools each military branch is different. What is right for one is not right for another. And no LAFF, I don't agree with you on your ranking of the services. To just broadly say that the AF (Or any branch for that matter) is hands down the best of all the branches you are either susceptible to any flavor of Kool Aid that is poured down your throat or you are trying to intentionally start an argument.
In my opinion the only things better about the AF are the QOL, short deployments, and general lack of stress. ***NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE HERE***
But yeah LAFF, I guess if you want to go to a nice little summer camp for six weeks and have the option to pull out a little "Stress" card every time someone yells at you then the Air Force would be the way to go
Again, just like flight schools each military branch is different. What is right for one is not right for another. And no LAFF, I don't agree with you on your ranking of the services. To just broadly say that the AF (Or any branch for that matter) is hands down the best of all the branches you are either susceptible to any flavor of Kool Aid that is poured down your throat or you are trying to intentionally start an argument.
In my opinion the only things better about the AF are the QOL, short deployments, and general lack of stress. ***NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE HERE***
But yeah LAFF, I guess if you want to go to a nice little summer camp for six weeks and have the option to pull out a little "Stress" card every time someone yells at you then the Air Force would be the way to go
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