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webecheck 06-03-2008 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 395932)
If the AF really wanted to save money it would eliminate the biggest waste of cash and manpower I have ever seen: the numbered air forces. Next, get rid of ASBC and the abomination that is SOS and we would be on the right track.

buzz, come on dude, we both know its necessary to have 2 chains of command......and w/o sos how will we decide the IDE selects?...we need those top thirds to lead the air force into the next battle.

side note - anybody know of any cool AGR gigs?

130drvr 06-03-2008 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 396246)
buzz, come on dude, we both know its necessary to have 2 chains of command......and w/o sos how will we decide the IDE selects?...we need those top thirds to lead the air force into the next battle.

side note - anybody know of any cool AGR gigs?

Look at the AF portal, REAMO site for a list of AGR spots, usajobs.gov will have ART jobs.

I think with UAVs on the upswing, year remotes forcing guys to exit at a staggering pace and guys like me turning down POS assignments and punching, the numbers don't indicate a future VSP for pilots, esp 11M. The ATA speaker from AFPC, Tate Johnson, chief of 11Ms, said we were about a thousand pilots short last year and had 900 additional taskings tacked on this year(UAV, white jet, AMLO, year remote). Math don't look good. The AF is slowly realizing there is a growing flood of guys leaving now as it is, for example, my squadron had 7 of 35 IPs punch for VSP 2006-2007, then 5 more got out this spring and 5 more leaning that way in the fall, with 3 total replacements. That means my buds in the C-130 FTU are hating life now, and no replacements expected this fall either.

Spaceman Spliff 06-04-2008 07:50 AM

I personally think we should divert more combat-ready assets to hand out towels in the base gym, and supplement the lawn nazi force.

Buzz 06-04-2008 12:53 PM

Agr For You
 

Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 396246)
buzz, come on dude, we both know its necessary to have 2 chains of command......and w/o sos how will we decide the IDE selects?...we need those top thirds to lead the air force into the next battle.

side note - anybody know of any cool AGR gigs?

YES! There are at least 5 AGR openings right now at Creech AFB.

I'm not kidding...

Search the AF portal for the reserve net and look up AGR opportunities.

Perfect job for ya!

Buzz

webecheck 06-04-2008 03:37 PM

hahahaha...i said cool agr gigs.

btw, i fly with a dude who just signed a 220k per year contract to teach t-6s in riyadh. all he has to pay for is food and internet. 2 months off and 2 airline tickets home each year.

hows delta treating you buzz?

SoPinesHeel 06-04-2008 05:16 PM

At some point you gotta ask yourself "is the money really worth living in these crap holes?"

I guess if I was single I would go do it. With a family though, no way. Life is too short to waste it in the butthole of the earth no matter how much they pay.

130drvr 06-05-2008 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 397170)
hahahaha...i said cool agr gigs.

btw, i fly with a dude who just signed a 220k per year contract to teach t-6s in riyadh. all he has to pay for is food and internet. 2 months off and 2 airline tickets home each year.

hows delta treating you buzz?

Good luck with that, the Saudis are more unsafe than teaching the Iraqis. I had a buddy who was in Saudi 2 years ago on a year remote teaching C-130s, he REFUSED to fly the last 4 months and went unqualified, because their MX practices were horrible. Maybe that is why they have to offer 220K.

Box Office 06-05-2008 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by SoPinesHeel (Post 397261)
At some point you gotta ask yourself "is the money really worth living in these crap holes?"

Well said, and the answer is not only no, but **** no!
The Air Force doesn't get that money does not make up for not having any quality of life.

130drvr 06-09-2008 03:58 PM

AF to halt drawdown
 
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...rce/index.html

"Story Highlights
NEW: Defense secretary announces halt to planned cuts in size of Air Force"

doubt VSP will exist now, with force shaping turned off, or so it sounds like.

WAFP 06-09-2008 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by 130drvr (Post 400986)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...rce/index.html

"Story Highlights
NEW: Defense secretary announces halt to planned cuts in size of Air Force"

doubt VSP will exist now, with force shaping turned off, or so it sounds like.

That's a kick in the jimmy! :eek:


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