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Silver2Gold 09-20-2008 09:01 PM

I feel compelled to reply, I rarely do. My executive summary would be this: "Choose to do what you will enjoy doing - if that's not teaching and flying - dont FAIP."
I was a FAIP - it was my #1 choice out of pilot training. I would not change a second of it. Here is my FAIP experience - I think it worked out.

T-37 IP: 1300 hours
T-6 IP: 350 hours
T-38 IP: 600 hours
U-2 (IP duty was in a Camaro or GTO): 750 hours

So, I left AD last fall after 9 years and as an O-3 (Maj select) with 3,000 hours - all as PIC and about 70% Instructor. I also got paid about 107K to leave. Timing was, truly, everything.

Oddly enough, I had never planned to leave early, or fly for the airlines. I just did what I knew I would enjoy, and would therefore do well. I absolutely loved to teach and fly. So, I chose to FAIP and I went to work smiling everyday. When it came assignment time, I chose to fly the U-2 because those dudes fly their butts off in two completely different airplanes, and all over the world. Again, I went to work with a smile on my face (maybe not the time I had to take a sh** while in the spacesuit and with 9 hours to go until landing, but, most of the time I was smiling.) The decision to get out was the most difficult of my life - but, I was enjoying my time off more (ie, airlines) and knew that the flying and teaching thing was what I really enjoyed the most (ie, the reserves.) I am starting a Navy T-45 flying gig here in the next month or so and plan to keep smiling there when not flying for Delta.

My point to all of this is: there are no guaruntees, few things will stay the same. Choose now to do what you will enjoy doing - you will do well, and the rest will fall into place.

Or, I could be furloughed next summer and flie chapter 13 trying to make ends meet as a part-timer for the Navy.............. in that case, disregard everything.

HueyHerc 09-21-2008 12:14 AM

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KC10 FATboy 09-23-2008 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 461823)
It sounds like making FAIPs might not be in the best interest of the AF :)
Why do you consider the UPT PIC time higher quality time than MWS PIC?

USMCFLYR

I don't. But, as a PIC of a UPT jet, you are an instructor. In a MWS (C-17, F-15, etc), you may not be an instructor. Every airline I applied too considered instructor PIC more favorable than regular PIC time. For the guys who have a FAIP job, they have more IP time and PIC than their non-FAIP buddies.

I'm just saying, if you want an edge in the civilian world, being a FAIP is a good deal.

-Fatty

USMCFLYR 09-23-2008 06:06 PM


Every airline I applied too considered instructor PIC more favorable than regular PIC time.
I hope this is true! I've been instructing for quite some time now. Let's hope the rest of the aviation industry likes instructional time.


I'm just saying, if you want an edge in the civilian world, being a FAIP is a good deal.
I guess my question here was about the person who joins the military to be a FAIP. Going around my current squadron recently I have run into a few SERGRADS as we call them. Not a one of them *joined* the military to instruct first tour. Everyone of them wanted to move onto a fleet squadron, but for some circumstance they were afforded the opportunity to stay and instruct. Sometimes it was a great deal because the waits for the RAG/FRS class might have been a year long! In 18 months - two of the former SERGRADS reported getting 700 hrs of turbine PIC time. Not bad eh?

USMCFLYR

-Fatty[/quote]


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