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VQ2 Spanky 10-28-2008 05:27 PM
P-3 Mishap
 
Any idea or scoop on the P-3 that went off the end of the runway recently. Heard thru the grapevine and trying to get more info.

Thanks

ducgsxr 10-28-2008 05:43 PM
special projects is all I know

String682 10-29-2008 06:46 AM
Here's a link to the Navy Times article:

Squadron CO fired after Afghanistan P-3 crash - Navy News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Navy Times

USMCFLYR 10-29-2008 07:03 AM
Originally Posted by String682 (Post 487953)
Is it normal to "reassign" a squadron CO if he in involved in a Class A?
I've actually not encountered this situation. The pilot of a Class A is usually grounded until the FNAEB/FFPB is complete; but relieving him of command is drastic unless the FNAEB or SIR is already complete and the finding were of severe negligence.

USMCFLYR

FlyFastLiveSlow 10-29-2008 09:26 AM
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 487966)
Is it normal to "reassign" a squadron CO if he in involved in a Class A?
The news article said he was the squadron commander AND the pilot. That probably had something to do with it. It also said the investigation is still underway. If I had to guess (and it's only a guess) there were obvious problems and that led them to move him out before the investigation was finished. On the AF side and I assume all services are close to the same, the CC usually only gets fired if they find some dirt or problems

Hetman 10-29-2008 09:42 AM
Not related, but from the article:

In the July incident, a Patrol Squadron 1 pilot lost control of a P-3 after an engine surged during a training exercise near NAS Whidbey Island, Wash.
The aircraft dropped 5,500 feet and pulled seven Gs before its pilot regained control less than 200 feet from the ground. The aircraft lost 45 rivets, broke a wing spar and bent its airframe; it landed safely at Whidbey with its crew unharmed.


Lord almighty! Mere words cannot describe!
Beer call! Everyone go change your shorts and meet at the club.

Twin Wasp 10-29-2008 10:14 AM
There are pictures of that P-3's wing, it looks like Shatner's gremlins were working on it. Skin peeled back and you can look IN the wing and see the top of the spar.

USMCFLYR 10-29-2008 12:56 PM
Originally Posted by FlyFastLiveSlow (Post 488078)
The news article said he was the squadron commander AND the pilot.
Yes - I realize that he was a pilot which is why I said that the pilot of a Class A mishap is usually grounded until one of the reports is complete - but not removed; so I agree - there has to be more there.

USMCFLYR

Rhinoflyer 10-29-2008 07:17 PM
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 487966)
Is it normal to "reassign" a squadron CO if he in involved in a Class A?
USMCFLYR
MCFLYR, My XO was involved in a Class A and there was no talk of any reassingment.

USMCFLYR 10-29-2008 09:51 PM
Rhino -

Yep - agreed.
I've had TWO XOs involved in mishaps and each time they don't fly until cleared; one of them didn't even required a FFPB in his case (USMC XO) because it was clearly airfield faciities realted - but he did in any case. that is why I wondered if it was different for a CO. In the end - I think there is something more to this story than just the mishap.

USMCFLYR


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