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KC10 FATboy 02-19-2009 05:23 PM

Introducing the SU-30 ...
 
Is this new? This looks bad a$$.

-Fatty

LiveLeak.com - Newest Russian Fighter Jet

rickair7777 02-19-2009 05:43 PM

It's a flanker variant...same with the Su-35.

These 4.5 generation flankers appear to be dangerous, the indians seem to be putting them to good use in exercises.

HSLD 02-19-2009 06:05 PM

Cool! That's a must add:

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/w...090219330.html

KC10 FATboy 02-19-2009 06:06 PM

It doesn't look very stealthy. I wonder what it costs compared to the F-22?

-Fatty

USMCFLYR 02-19-2009 08:26 PM

Recovers from a flat spin in 1 minute can it? :eek:
Sure hopes he start WAAAAAYYYYYY up there then since you can reach RODs in excess of 30,000' fpm :rolleyes:
Just like the old 'Cobra' maneuver - a lot of that fancy flying doesn't really relate to combat maneuvers. The Russians have always built incredibly powerful aircraft - and it seem in the last decade they have made some good leaps and bounds in flight controls. I wonder if the egronomics are any better in their newer aircraft? Still makes for a heck of an airshow though!

USMCFLYR

ryan1234 02-19-2009 08:45 PM

YouTube - First 5th generation multiaxis nozzle

Not sure what this guy is saying... but something about the first multi-axis thrust vector system

crewdawg 02-19-2009 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by ryan1234 (Post 563231)
YouTube - First 5th generation multiaxis nozzle

Not sure what this guy is saying... but something about the first multi-axis thrust vector system



YouTube - General Dynamics NF-16 VISTA

Kilgore Trout 02-19-2009 11:50 PM

Kobpa!
 

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 563225)
:rolleyes:
Just like the old 'Cobra' maneuver - a lot of that fancy flying doesn't really relate to combat maneuvers.

USMCFLYR

My friend if you can be sparing time of longer by slight of 8 minutes from your busy imperialist schedule I respect divert you attention to this glorious clip of movie to be dispelling your arrogant Western Ways! Is in english language so easy for you to understand.


YouTube - Russian Top Gun

USMCFLYR 02-20-2009 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout (Post 563278)
My friend if you can be sparing time of longer by slight of 8 minutes from your busy imperialist schedule I respect divert you attention to this glorious clip of movie to be dispelling your arrogant Western Ways! Is in english language so easy for you to understand.


YouTube - Russian Top Gun

OK Kilgore - you have 8 minutes of my time to plead your case.
The quote at around 5:30 is comm standaard before launching any weapon during a fight. If approved up the chain - it can be slightly altered to fit any situation ;)

USMCFLYR

Zoot Suit 02-20-2009 06:38 AM

I want to first say I have never flown in the military so I don't know much about air-air combat. While the video is impressive and the aircraft must be a blast to fly or watch at an airshow I wonder how that converts to real life combat flying?

Having a jet like that 40 years ago against our F-4's would probably result in many kills for the Russians but as KC10 mentioned above, it does not appear to have any stealth capability which in todays environment would seem to be a problem. All that dancing isn't going to do it if you can't see your opponent and he can see you(radar).

It kind of reminds me of a this:

YouTube - Indiana Jones is a Bad Ass

Am I wrong?


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