F-16 pilot and multi-time requirements
03-31-2009 | 08:27 PM
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F-16 pilot and multi-time requirements
Do F-16 pilots have a hard time getting jobs that require a lot of multi-time? Forgive me if this is a stupid question but I'm trying to join a ANG fighter wing that fly F-16s and this question just came to mind.
03-31-2009 | 10:09 PM
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Besides....who cares, you will have more fun flying this thing than you can ever imagine....worry about multi hours later!
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04-01-2009 | 02:28 AM
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While I'm not 100% (I didn't interview anywhere and am going to Guard as an AGR), my understanding from looking into things last year was that airlines look at any fighter time as "high performance aircraft" time, so it doesn't matter if you're flying a Viper or Eagle or Hog, as long as you have the total number of hours required. Also consider almost all your time in the Viper will be PIC time since after the first half dozen flights, you'll be the only one in the aircraft. There might be an employer or two who discriminates and says it doesn't count toward a multi-engine requirement, but I'm guessing they wouldn't be a military friendly employer anyway at that point.
04-01-2009 | 04:13 AM
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What about T-6 IP time? Is it scoffed at for airline contentions or does it satisfy most employers' "turbine PIC" requirements the way a dude walking in with Viper time could/couldn't?
P.S. I flew the T-6 in UPT and that sucker is such a fun aircraft to fly. I'm sure the -37 carries some nostalgia with it but I rather not reinvent the wheel (ergonomics and cockpit crosscheck) everytime I go flying (oh wait I already do that in the buff......
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P.S. I flew the T-6 in UPT and that sucker is such a fun aircraft to fly. I'm sure the -37 carries some nostalgia with it but I rather not reinvent the wheel (ergonomics and cockpit crosscheck) everytime I go flying (oh wait I already do that in the buff......
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04-01-2009 | 05:15 AM
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The multi requirement at Netjets is due to the contract with owners. All airlines, that I know of, accept viper time toward the turbine PIC requirement, as was mentioned earlier. BTW, flying vipers is cool, but is in no way a time builder. I've been in the Viper for 7 years with 3 tours in OIF and I have about 1100 hours in it. Funny thing is I have more time than an active duty buddy of mine from IFF who has stayed in the viper. He has just over 900. DoD budget cuts and overmanning have been a pain and they seem to get worse every year.
What unit are you trying to get into?
What unit are you trying to get into?
04-01-2009 | 07:47 AM
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You'll get about ~150 hours in the 38, that's about it. Unfortunately the tweet will be gone...that was good for another 120 hours (plus it was a blast to fly). Most places give military guys .2 conversion but that still isn't much for what you would have after your seasoning. So for places like NetJets that require 500 multi, you would be out of luck. Unless you have significant amount of multi time from before, you will need to build some twin time somewhere else.
Besides....who cares, you will have more fun flying this thing than you can ever imagine....worry about multi hours later!
Goodluck!
Besides....who cares, you will have more fun flying this thing than you can ever imagine....worry about multi hours later!
Goodluck!
The multi requirement at Netjets is due to the contract with owners. All airlines, that I know of, accept viper time toward the turbine PIC requirement, as was mentioned earlier. BTW, flying vipers is cool, but is in no way a time builder. I've been in the Viper for 7 years with 3 tours in OIF and I have about 1100 hours in it. Funny thing is I have more time than an active duty buddy of mine from IFF who has stayed in the viper. He has just over 900. DoD budget cuts and overmanning have been a pain and they seem to get worse every year.
What unit are you trying to get into?
What unit are you trying to get into?
04-01-2009 | 08:25 AM
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Yes and no. It depends on who you want to work for. Some companies are very strict on the requirements for multi-engine. Some just require turbine time (SWA for example). However, I know guys with zero PIC time who were hired by UPS, FedEx, DAL and CAL. So, anything is possible depending on who you know.
04-01-2009 | 10:47 AM
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As stated earlier, it shouldn't be a problem but will take a long time to meet major airline mins if you don't fly another jet or tprop on the outside.
04-01-2009 | 05:17 PM
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HAHA, thats great. I am planning on flying on the outside for sure.
04-01-2009 | 07:25 PM
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What is your background, imbroke? Do you have previous military experience? Are you planning on enlisting with the 115?
I am in the 115th Maintenance Squadron, and from what I've seen to get a pilot slot 1) come off of active duty or 2) enlist, build yourself a name, and then apply for a position.
I do not know of any off the street to seat F-16 pilots here. I'm just being honest. So to reiterate, if you want the position and don't have any military experience, be prepared to swear an oath as an enlisted person.
I am in the 115th Maintenance Squadron, and from what I've seen to get a pilot slot 1) come off of active duty or 2) enlist, build yourself a name, and then apply for a position.
I do not know of any off the street to seat F-16 pilots here. I'm just being honest. So to reiterate, if you want the position and don't have any military experience, be prepared to swear an oath as an enlisted person.
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