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Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 603998)
Michael, again what are you talking about? you make no sense.... you must have been out with Stan all night. Belching cash?
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Originally Posted by LucasM
(Post 604303)
The biggest thing for the IFS students to remember is not take this training for granted, but instead take advantage of it. I'm an IP for a flight school that does the USMC IFS program, and every new class that we get there are some people that need to be reminded that they will only get as much out of it as they put into it. Yes they may have and Air Contract, but if they can't manage to learn to fly a Cessna, then they will be assigned to a different job.
Do a lot of you other instructors see this attitude also? Of course, we never expected the students to show up knowing this - but we did expect them to accept the criticism and instruction and eventually adapt. Given your situation, there is very little that you can or want to do to get them motivated - it's just an introductory program. But, if you start them off in the right direction, they usually show up that much more prepared for the next phase of training. |
Originally Posted by LivingInMEM
(Post 604338)
As a former military instructor, a student's attitude and willingness to work and learn were as important or more than raw flying skills when determining how I dealt with my students. Being a good F-16/F-15/F-18 wingman/flight lead or KC-10/C-17 copilot has more to do with a student's ability to pay attention to the briefs and debriefs, get into the books, and learn than with being able to fly a smooth ILS. We can teach anyone to fly an ILS, so if you show up with your ATP and the associated flying skills, and that's all you bring to the table, you won't get far. Military instructors need to be more concerned with the mission (more exactly, our ability to fight wars in the future) and the student's future squadron mates than the student himself. The current squadron guys doing the mission have enough to worry about without getting a new guy in the squadron that is going to be a pain in the a__. A civilian instructor's customer is the student, a military instructor's customer is the parent service - and this includes the contractor instructors. If you wash out any particular student, you'll get another to take his place pretty quickly. If you send a problem child to the CAF/fleet - he's going to be taking up that valuable slot (sts) for quite a while. I had to tell a couple of particular students that I didn't care about them personally, I was more concerned with the generic graduate that went on to follow on training - if they wanted to step up and be that guy, then we'd work well together.
Of course, we never expected the students to show up knowing this - but we did expect them to accept the criticism and instruction and eventually adapt. Given your situation, there is very little that you can or want to do to get them motivated - it's just an introductory program. But, if you start them off in the right direction, they usually show up that much more prepared for the next phase of training. |
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