Competitive Minimums for Air Force Slot
#11
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New question. After doing some reading I think I have a good idea of the answer to this one but I thought I would get some more feed back.
While filling out the OTS Applicant Information Form I got to the use of illegal drugs and got to thinking...Does this DQ one from OTS/UPT. More specifically marijuana used 3 times 5 years ago. I answered truthfuly. Integrity to me is something I have become to pride myself in.
What I have read is that the USAF has a zero tolerance drug use policy with regards to Officers.
I am not proud of the decisions I made but I have learned a great deal from them. I know, I know...I should have just said NO!
Thanks.
While filling out the OTS Applicant Information Form I got to the use of illegal drugs and got to thinking...Does this DQ one from OTS/UPT. More specifically marijuana used 3 times 5 years ago. I answered truthfuly. Integrity to me is something I have become to pride myself in.
What I have read is that the USAF has a zero tolerance drug use policy with regards to Officers.
I am not proud of the decisions I made but I have learned a great deal from them. I know, I know...I should have just said NO!
Thanks.
#12
I've been doing a lot of reading lately and I wanted to get a few more opinions on what you think or have heard the competitive minimums for a slot in the Air Force are.
I am running close to the end of the age clock and have just begun actively pursuing this dream (I know I should have started earlier).
I have a 4 year degree in aviation 3.93 GPA. I also have a master's degree in aviation 4.00 GPA.
I am currently working as a check instructor at a 141 flight school. I have just a little over 1,500 hours total time and 300 ME.
I have not yet taken the AFOQT.
I just found the web site hamletthouse.com and just reading about training I am even more determined to to realize my dream.
I would appreciate any insight on this matter. My real fear is that with the amount of pilots looking for a job that the minimums to get a slot are much higher than what I have.
Thanks and Happy Memorial Day.
I am running close to the end of the age clock and have just begun actively pursuing this dream (I know I should have started earlier).
I have a 4 year degree in aviation 3.93 GPA. I also have a master's degree in aviation 4.00 GPA.
I am currently working as a check instructor at a 141 flight school. I have just a little over 1,500 hours total time and 300 ME.
I have not yet taken the AFOQT.
I just found the web site hamletthouse.com and just reading about training I am even more determined to to realize my dream.
I would appreciate any insight on this matter. My real fear is that with the amount of pilots looking for a job that the minimums to get a slot are much higher than what I have.
Thanks and Happy Memorial Day.
You have a very good start; however, your package is very aviation "heavy". Do you bring anything else to the table?
The USAF isn't looking for "pilots" or set minimum flying times. It is looking for MILITARY OFFICERS. In the USAF, you are an Officer first, pilot second. At the beginning of your career, you get a lot face time with the shiny new jet -- but that love affair quickly ends. This may or may not be obvious to you.
The board will be looking at the "total person concept". That includes, but not limited too, type of degree, GPA, volunteerism, military legacy, fitness scores, AFOQT scores, leadership abilities or positions held. They will ask the question, does this person have the leadership abilities to be a military officer? And if that answer is yes, then the second question will be "what career field do we put this person in?" Although it might seem obvious to you that you would fit the pilot field best, you may end up getting a non-rated (non-flying) AFSC.
I personally don't think having flying time is going to be a pro or con. I knew people who had lots of flying time and never got a slot. And then I knew CFIIs who failed out of UPT. I'm sure the scoring system will favoribly view your flying time, but don't expect it to put you over the top. (reference the previous two paragraphs)
Lastly, if this is your life long dream, GET STARTED ON THE AFOQT NOW!!! The clock is ticking and you're running out of time. Make sure your package includes your leadership abilities / jobs ... etc.
Good luck!
#13
New question. After doing some reading I think I have a good idea of the answer to this one but I thought I would get some more feed back.
While filling out the OTS Applicant Information Form I got to the use of illegal drugs and got to thinking...Does this DQ one from OTS/UPT. More specifically marijuana used 3 times 5 years ago. I answered truthfuly. Integrity to me is something I have become to pride myself in.
What I have read is that the USAF has a zero tolerance drug use policy with regards to Officers.
I am not proud of the decisions I made but I have learned a great deal from them. I know, I know...I should have just said NO!
Thanks.
While filling out the OTS Applicant Information Form I got to the use of illegal drugs and got to thinking...Does this DQ one from OTS/UPT. More specifically marijuana used 3 times 5 years ago. I answered truthfuly. Integrity to me is something I have become to pride myself in.
What I have read is that the USAF has a zero tolerance drug use policy with regards to Officers.
I am not proud of the decisions I made but I have learned a great deal from them. I know, I know...I should have just said NO!
Thanks.
#14
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Tiger, I wish you the best, but here is my opinion.
You have a very good start; however, your package is very aviation "heavy". Do you bring anything else to the table?
The USAF isn't looking for "pilots" or set minimum flying times. It is looking for MILITARY OFFICERS. In the USAF, you are an Officer first, pilot second. At the beginning of your career, you get a lot face time with the shiny new jet -- but that love affair quickly ends. This may or may not be obvious to you.
The board will be looking at the "total person concept". That includes, but not limited too, type of degree, GPA, volunteerism, military legacy, fitness scores, AFOQT scores, leadership abilities or positions held. They will ask the question, does this person have the leadership abilities to be a military officer? And if that answer is yes, then the second question will be "what career field do we put this person in?" Although it might seem obvious to you that you would fit the pilot field best, you may end up getting a non-rated (non-flying) AFSC.
I personally don't think having flying time is going to be a pro or con. I knew people who had lots of flying time and never got a slot. And then I knew CFIIs who failed out of UPT. I'm sure the scoring system will favoribly view your flying time, but don't expect it to put you over the top. (reference the previous two paragraphs)
Lastly, if this is your life long dream, GET STARTED ON THE AFOQT NOW!!! The clock is ticking and you're running out of time. Make sure your package includes your leadership abilities / jobs ... etc.
Good luck!
You have a very good start; however, your package is very aviation "heavy". Do you bring anything else to the table?
The USAF isn't looking for "pilots" or set minimum flying times. It is looking for MILITARY OFFICERS. In the USAF, you are an Officer first, pilot second. At the beginning of your career, you get a lot face time with the shiny new jet -- but that love affair quickly ends. This may or may not be obvious to you.
The board will be looking at the "total person concept". That includes, but not limited too, type of degree, GPA, volunteerism, military legacy, fitness scores, AFOQT scores, leadership abilities or positions held. They will ask the question, does this person have the leadership abilities to be a military officer? And if that answer is yes, then the second question will be "what career field do we put this person in?" Although it might seem obvious to you that you would fit the pilot field best, you may end up getting a non-rated (non-flying) AFSC.
I personally don't think having flying time is going to be a pro or con. I knew people who had lots of flying time and never got a slot. And then I knew CFIIs who failed out of UPT. I'm sure the scoring system will favoribly view your flying time, but don't expect it to put you over the top. (reference the previous two paragraphs)
Lastly, if this is your life long dream, GET STARTED ON THE AFOQT NOW!!! The clock is ticking and you're running out of time. Make sure your package includes your leadership abilities / jobs ... etc.
Good luck!
Volunteer work has been predominately through my current job by organizing aviation youth camps for intercity grade schools and supporting the undergraduate chapter of my fraternity as an Alumni Adviser. This probably is not enough volunteer work I know but this is one of the areas of my life I would like to improve by serving my country.
The next Rated Board is not until September I believe. I spoke with the recruiter yesterday and he is currently very busy finishing up the non-rated board applications. He said that June or July is when I will probably take the AFOQT.
Well that is some good news to hear that my poor decisions a few years ago will not DQ me from the process. As a whole person concept I see that this will not look good. However, I am very determined to see this process through. If I do not pass the board that will not be the end for me. Edison failed many times and was not discouraged to try again and I too will try again.
I truly believe that with every negative that life throws my way it is my responsibility to turn it into a positive (to see the light if you will). What I mean is that even though I made a few poor decisions I found something in myself that I did not know I had, Integrity. I realized the mistake I had made. I was angry, disappointed, and ashamed at myself. I asked for forgiveness and was given it along with the gift of Integrity. I truly was blessed through that short chapter of my life and I wear it not as a burden but truly as a blessing. I now fully realize the idea of following the rules and doing what is right all the time even when there is no one there, Integrity.
So, the good news is that I will be able to continue the process. The bad news...none!
Keep it positive!
#15
I think I may be in the same boat as Tiger. I have not taken the AFOQT or TBAS. I currently work as a manager for a failing company (not a regional sorry boys you are the only ones in that boat) and want a challenge. In my short career out of college I have excelled at what I do but I want something more. How often to guard units hire pilots of the street? I know pilot time does not matter over 200 hrs but for what its worth I'm 22, 3 types and 800 turbine. Where do I go from taking the AFOQT and TBAS what is the next step towards the Guard?
#16
UAL T38 Phyler had some very wise advice earlier concerning a forum/website baseops.net
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They have every possible topic completely covered several times over.... from what color underwear you should bring to OTS, to getting a Guard slot, to mary jane questions...
Everything you want to know can be found about flying with the AF, AF Reserve, or ANG can be found at that website. When/If you go there, search for your topic and read, read, read, before you post. I've gotten all the info I needed without posting anything.
Baseops Forums (Powered by Invision Power Board)
They have every possible topic completely covered several times over.... from what color underwear you should bring to OTS, to getting a Guard slot, to mary jane questions...
Everything you want to know can be found about flying with the AF, AF Reserve, or ANG can be found at that website. When/If you go there, search for your topic and read, read, read, before you post. I've gotten all the info I needed without posting anything.
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I really think it is subjective to who exactly is on the board at the time, what their expectations are for applicants, and also the qualifications of the specific group applying at the time which sets the bar.
I know when I was going through the application process, there was a guy with a 99 PCSM that got non-selected. That should tell you something.
I know when I was going through the application process, there was a guy with a 99 PCSM that got non-selected. That should tell you something.