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Jetset69 03-17-2010 02:29 PM

Single Engine Add-on to CFI
 
I am a former T-37 Instructor and the went on to fly bigger equipment. Long story short, I never amassed any significant time in Single-engine aircraft. I would like to have my CFI say: Single Engine and Multi Engine. Does anyone know the best way to get the Single Engine piece taken care of?
Thanks.

Jet

Tweetdrvr 03-17-2010 03:04 PM

Go get whatever conversion you can get with the new change to the FARs before it goes away. Worst case scenario, you were never an IP in a military multi engine aircraft with no centerline thrust restriction, so you would get a CFI-Multi Engine land restricted to centerline thrust and have instrument privileges.

Each successive instructor check I took got easier. The first one was the worst, about an eight hour ground eval from a designated examiner plus the flight. The second one was only about an hour of one instructor topic since on the previous, I demonstrated all the other knowlege of the FARs, Fundamentals of Instruction, and my lesson plans.

Even though it seems as if you were doing them backwards order from most folks, walking into the single engine CFI checkride with another instructor ticket should minimize the pain. Do not be unprepared, know what it takes to get a zero time civilian to a Rec/Sport/PPL ticket and know the Practical Test Standards.

If I had to guess, I would say you would still have about a two hour ground eval, just because the of all the Part 61, 67 and 91 questions that would come up. The flying part will be relatively easy, if you get with someone who can teach you to teach the civilian commercial manuevers to the PTS.

You would also have to take a commercial single engine checkride, because you have to commercial privileges on your single engine ticket to be eligible for a CFI-Airplane Single Engine. So your commercial check would be practice for your CFI check ride.

That is my best hack at it, but I put the caveat on that I have not done the civilian side of the house in a long time.

HuggyU2 03-17-2010 08:22 PM

As a Tweet IP, you can get your MEL and CFII. Worry about the CFI later.
"All ATP's" used to have you get your MEI before your CFI when you did their instructor course.

Fourgoslot 03-18-2010 02:16 AM

[quote=HuggyU2;780430]As a Tweet IP, you can get your MEL and CFII. Worry about the CFI later.quote]

If you have your CFII don't you also have your CFI by default??

DL31082 03-18-2010 04:37 AM

[quote=Fourgoslot;780496]

Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 780430)
As a Tweet IP, you can get your MEL and CFII. Worry about the CFI later.quote]

If you have your CFII don't you also have your CFI by default??

Nope. Just because you have your CFII does not mean you have you CFI single, which is what most people call the CFI. Two seperate ratings.

Fourgoslot 03-18-2010 03:00 PM

[quote=DL31082;780518]

Originally Posted by Fourgoslot (Post 780496)

Nope. Just because you have your CFII does not mean you have you CFI single, which is what most people call the CFI. Two seperate ratings.

Interesting. I obviously need to read that section closer, I came up through the military IP ranks so I hadn't really looked at getting a CFI until they passed this law. I always thought you had to have a basic CFI before you could get a CFII. I'm only interested in the single engine CFI/CFII anyway to teach my kids. I know there's a little more involved for all the multi guys out there.

HuggyU2 03-18-2010 04:37 PM

Bottom line: if you are a military IP, and you don't pony up the $50 for the Sheppard Air prep, and the $150 test fee to get the FAA instructor ratings you can, you are passing up a rare opportunity, and making a mistake.

Fourgoslot 03-18-2010 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 780817)
Bottom line: if you are a military IP, and you don't pony up the $50 for the Sheppard Air prep, and the $150 test fee to get the FAA instructor ratings you can, you are passing up a rare opportunity, and making a mistake.

Agreed. I wish I had multi instructor time to get the MEI more easily. I'll probably work to add it after I retire in a few years. I personally don't think this good deal will last for us.

kenblankenship 03-28-2010 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 780817)
Bottom line: if you are a military IP, and you don't pony up the $50 for the Sheppard Air prep, and the $150 test fee to get the FAA instructor ratings you can, you are passing up a rare opportunity, and making a mistake.

Huggy, I would normally agree with with this logic.

But with the 24-month renewal on the CFI cert, it's not as much of a no-brainer as getting your SEL or MEL right out of UPT. Unless I'm planning on moonlighting as a CFI while still flying in the military, is there an advantage to running out and adding this cert? Since there appears to be no time constraint when my last military IP flight, I can wait until I would actually need it. Or I can get it right now just for the sake of holding it, then pay to renew it every 2 years.

Am I missing something here?

Riddler 03-28-2010 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by kenblankenship (Post 785286)
Huggy, I would normally agree with with this logic.

But with the 24-month renewal on the CFI cert, it's not as much of a no-brainer as getting your SEL or MEL right out of UPT. Unless I'm planning on moonlighting as a CFI while still flying in the military, is there an advantage to running out and adding this cert? Since there appears to be no time constraint when my last military IP flight, I can wait until I would actually need it. Or I can get it right now just for the sake of holding it, then pay to renew it every 2 years.

Am I missing something here?

Right you are, Ken.

OK, I just had to say that.


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