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rickair7777 09-08-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 675159)
Rickair7777:

Don't you need a Class 3 or 1 to fly commercially? I thought that was true, and a 3rd was only good for Part 91.

Well, I guess Part 91 flying for a Corporate gig might qual, but I've never crossed that bridge.

USMCFLYER is correct in that extremely few military flight docs have been authorized to give Class 1s. Maybe 4-5 total in each service.

At my base, the doc could give you a 3rd class (prior to the rule-change; he had some authorization), and the doc could authorize TriCare to get you a 2nd class, downtown (no flight doc in the area could give a first-class).

The new rule change means the flight doc can issue a 3rd on his own.

Class 3: Recreational (non-compensated) flying only. This means part 91 private-pilot stuff.
Class 2: Legally required for almost any flying which requires a commercial certificate. Exception is that you do not need a medical to flight instruct, as long as the student is rated to act as PIC for the flight.
Class 1: Legally required for any flying which requires an ATP (airline Captain, and probably also airline FO in three years). However many non-121 operations require a first class as a matter of policy, and any airline will require one to get hired initially.

rickair7777 09-08-2009 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by CAFB 04-12 (Post 674051)

Answer: Yes. Link

So, all I need to do is provide the FAA with a copy of my Form 8 to retain currency? And I can fly civilian planes using my AF 1042? Sounds too good to be true.

This must be new, it's not in my old copy of the FARs, it does not even have paragraph 61.23(b)(9)

Probably time to buy a new one...

UAL T38 Phlyer 09-08-2009 06:30 PM

Typo.....Oops
 
My original post was supposed to say Class 2 or 1 for commercial, so yeah, I had it right (just fat-fingered). Good clarification, though.

For all asking about AF 1042s: the Flight Doc will give you an actual FAA Class 3 form, just like you used to pay good money for.

ufgatorpilot 09-09-2009 03:22 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 675315)
Class 3: Recreational (non-compensated) flying only. This means part 91 private-pilot stuff.
Class 2: Legally required for almost any flying which requires a commercial certificate. Exception is that you do not need a medical to flight instruct, as long as the student is rated to act as PIC for the flight.
Class 1: Legally required for any flying which requires an ATP (airline Captain, and probably also airline FO in three years). However many non-121 operations require a first class as a matter of policy, and any airline will require one to get hired initially.

Flight instruction only requires a third class, not a second class.

rickair7777 09-09-2009 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by ufgatorpilot (Post 675523)
Flight instruction only requires a third class, not a second class.

As I mentioned in your quote, it does not require any medical at all, if the student is the PIC. If the CFI needs to be the PIC, then he needs a third class.

ufgatorpilot 09-09-2009 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 675639)
As I mentioned in your quote, it does not require any medical at all, if the student is the PIC. If the CFI needs to be the PIC, then he needs a third class.

Yes, I understood that about the CFI not requiring a medical at all if the student is PIC. I was just getting at your second sentence - that where the CFI needs to be PIC, then only a third class is required. I think your initial posting was just confusing b/c you listed the exception in the Class 2 line, rather than the Class 3 line....

NateM 11-10-2009 12:19 PM

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cruiseclimb 11-10-2009 08:49 PM

I took the FAA test the first day it was released.. and passed no problem after doing the Sheppard course. It was about 70% FOI.

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USMCFDX 11-11-2009 11:14 AM

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I just took the exam, one wrong. Headed to the FSDO tomorrow.

Not sure why you would spend any money with anyone else.


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