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Old 03-05-2010, 05:03 AM
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Zero Based Budgeted Total Quality Management By Objectives? (ZBBTQMBO)

In my military years, we went through Zero Based Budgeting, Management By Objectives, Total Quality Managemnt (Quality Air Force) and probably a couple others that have slipped my mind....

I've been out for a while. Just curious: Is their a "new" latest and greatest bandwagon?
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Yep...AFSO 21: Air Force Smart Operations for the 21st Century.

It's another misguided attempt at having amateurs try to implement the latest civilian management fad...in this case Six Sigma
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Yep...AFSO 21: Air Force Smart Operations for the 21st Century. . .
Does that mean we were all dumb in the 20th century ?
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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There is nothing smart about Air Force Operations as far as I can tell.
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And the sad thing is, pains me to say it, my good friend and colleague is paid as an AF civilian employee twice what I get paid as an operator, to merely pitch in his two cents on these "processes" and AFSO initiatives. Literally, the guy sits in front of a phone and teleworks from home pitching his two cents about life and whatever brainstorming session they got going on that week on AF civilian cubicle city GS-14 land. Most of these cats served zero hours in a bag or blues in their lives. His travel per diem is higher than mine and getting shot at by the latest and greatest flying telephone poles are in MY job description and absent in his. I'm starting to think I got the raw end of the deal....

AFSO 21, another self-licking ice cream cone.
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This is from the same Air Force that projects Billy Mitchell, John Boyd, and Curtis LeMay as heroes - but would run you out if you ever lived by their example. Try getting promoted to or past O-5 by always doing and saying what is right as Boyd did. Why would AFSO 21 be any different. Nothing exemplifies "beating your nugget against the wall" as trying to pitch change in this USAF does.
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There is nothing smart about Air Force Operations as far as I can tell.
No kidding !!!

I just spent 2.5 hours in a staff metting hearing about Unit Compliance Inspection preparations. HQ is using a new online checklist program that even HQ themselves don't know how to use. They've failed to assign common core checklists to each unit; therefore, nobody has any idea which checklists to run. Instead of taking responsibility and telling us which regulations / checklists apply, we were told to run all of them ... just in case.

I thought I was going to gouge my eyes and ears out after one Subject Matter Expert in the room told us that we should complete some of the Army's checklists because some items there also apply to us in the Air Force. (I'm not joking)

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This is from the same Air Force that projects Billy Mitchell, John Boyd, and Curtis LeMay as heroes - but would run you out if you ever lived by their example.
This.

It's allowed to "think" outside the container...but God help you if you "act" outside the container.
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This is from the same Air Force that projects Billy Mitchell, John Boyd, and Curtis LeMay as heroes - but would run you out if you ever lived by their example.
Nobody suppresses rebellion more vigorously than a previous rebel who won and is now the boss.
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I welcome questions about my decisions (time and circumstances permitting, of course). If you can't articulate why you did something or decided one way or another, you likely didn't make the correct choice.

Unfortunately, that's not how the majority of leadership think. Let's just say that I have been spending the last few days trying to get a HHQ actor to explain his decision or man up and do the right thing - it's an exercise in futility (along the lines of what KC10FB was saying).
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