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threeighteen 10-26-2011 08:09 AM

ANG Enlistment Question
 
If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?

fishforfun 10-26-2011 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 1075283)
If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?

Thats exactly what my T-1 partner did to get into UPT. He made it seem like the one of the easiest way to get in with the unit.

UPTme 10-26-2011 09:01 AM

Yes, but keep in mind, it could delay you getting to UPT. Deployments and training will slow down your degree progress.

I considered enlisting, but opted to finish my degree ASAP and find a unit to hire me.

Best of luck with whichever route you decide.

threeighteen 10-26-2011 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 1075317)
Thats exactly what my T-1 partner did to get into UPT. He made it seem like the one of the easiest way to get in with the unit.

Thanks. The only in-state unit that's within reasonable commuting distance is a Viper unit which is an air-frame I'd love to fly someday, however I will also be applying to every C130/KC-135/C17 unit that I can as the competition for slots here is fierce.

rickair7777 10-26-2011 09:05 AM

The military will essentially always allow an enlisted man to do a commissioning program at any time, even if they are in a high-demand MOS.

I have never once heard of any enlisted person being told that their skill was too critical to allow them to go officer.

AirGunner 11-03-2011 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 1075283)
If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?

If I was in your shoes I would wait until you are finished with school, then get commissioned whether it was Reserve/Guard/Active Duty. The Air Force will always be around, time dedicated to finishing your education may not. (Life happens after all.) If you were to enlist as other posters have said, you'll have to contend with basic training (a joke), technical school, and finally OJT when you get back to your unit. Add deployments into the mix once you are fully qualified in your AFSC. Realize, that you'll have to make up about a year and half (worst case) of time you could have used to finish your degree. However, it's not impossible to do though, if you are determined to finish your degree. Additionally, it's not as simple as being awarded a UPT slot once you finish your degree. If you can get a slot as an officer once you have finished school, you'll have to go through OTS first to earn your commission then go to UPT. Talk long with your family, friends, and finally your recruiter before you finally decide what you want to do. All the best :)

ERJF15 11-03-2011 05:44 PM

AirGunner gives great advice. I was a tech school instructor for 4 years. Depending which airframe, you could be at Sheppard for 4-5 months. And as he said, getting your OJT/CDC's done will take priority. However, if that's the way you feel you need to go, it's still not a bad plan.

HawkJ2010 11-10-2011 09:36 AM

Anyone here go to graduate school while enlisted in the ANG/AFRes? I have been asking around on Baseops as well. I really want to enlist as a loadmaster and hopefully go through graduate school as well. I just want to know if it has been done before and if anyone out there is willing to PM/talk to me about it. Thanks.

threeighteen 03-06-2012 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 1075336)
The military will essentially always allow an enlisted man to do a commissioning program at any time, even if they are in a high-demand MOS.

I have never once heard of any enlisted person being told that their skill was too critical to allow them to go officer.

Thank you!


Originally Posted by AirGunner (Post 1079588)
If I was in your shoes I would wait until you are finished with school, then get commissioned whether it was Reserve/Guard/Active Duty. The Air Force will always be around, time dedicated to finishing your education may not. (Life happens after all.) If you were to enlist as other posters have said, you'll have to contend with basic training (a joke), technical school, and finally OJT when you get back to your unit. Add deployments into the mix once you are fully qualified in your AFSC. Realize, that you'll have to make up about a year and half (worst case) of time you could have used to finish your degree. However, it's not impossible to do though, if you are determined to finish your degree. Additionally, it's not as simple as being awarded a UPT slot once you finish your degree. If you can get a slot as an officer once you have finished school, you'll have to go through OTS first to earn your commission then go to UPT. Talk long with your family, friends, and finally your recruiter before you finally decide what you want to do. All the best :)

Thanks, taking this into serious consideration too.


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 1079620)
AirGunner gives great advice. I was a tech school instructor for 4 years. Depending which airframe, you could be at Sheppard for 4-5 months. And as he said, getting your OJT/CDC's done will take priority. However, if that's the way you feel you need to go, it's still not a bad plan.

Thank you for the input, and nice avatar btw.




Originally Posted by Velosprints (Post 1081974)
I did something very similar. I enlisted in the COANG right outta high school. I served a full 6 year enlistment, and signed up for a second as a F-16 fuel systems tech. I applied to just about every Reserve and Guard C-5/C-17/KC-135 unit in the country after I graduated school, and was able to get out of my enlistment in order to switch components, go to OTS and ultimately UPT. (I switched from the guard to the reserves and got a flying job in MD) I believe that being prior enlisted could help you greatly in the interview process as well. It shows that you have an idea of what the Air Force is all about and it demonstrates that you have an understanding of what is expected of you should you be selected to attend UPT.

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

Cheers

PM inbound sometime soon, thanks!


Originally Posted by HawkJ2010 (Post 1082976)
Anyone here go to graduate school while enlisted in the ANG/AFRes? I have been asking around on Baseops as well. I really want to enlist as a loadmaster and hopefully go through graduate school as well. I just want to know if it has been done before and if anyone out there is willing to PM/talk to me about it. Thanks.

Could work out well, could be hell. All depends on what field you're researching. If you have to deploy for six months during a major research aspect of your degree that you might not be able to make up for another year..... you get the idea.


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