Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Career Builder > Military
ANG Enlistment Question >

ANG Enlistment Question

Search
Notices
Military Military Aviation

ANG Enlistment Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-26-2011, 08:09 AM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
Default ANG Enlistment Question

If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?
threeighteen is offline  
Old 10-26-2011, 08:53 AM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Hoping for any position
Posts: 2,507
Default

Originally Posted by threeighteen View Post
If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?
Thats exactly what my T-1 partner did to get into UPT. He made it seem like the one of the easiest way to get in with the unit.
fishforfun is offline  
Old 10-26-2011, 09:01 AM
  #3  
Hire me
 
UPTme's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 406
Default

Yes, but keep in mind, it could delay you getting to UPT. Deployments and training will slow down your degree progress.

I considered enlisting, but opted to finish my degree ASAP and find a unit to hire me.

Best of luck with whichever route you decide.
UPTme is offline  
Old 10-26-2011, 09:04 AM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
Default

Originally Posted by fishforfun View Post
Thats exactly what my T-1 partner did to get into UPT. He made it seem like the one of the easiest way to get in with the unit.
Thanks. The only in-state unit that's within reasonable commuting distance is a Viper unit which is an air-frame I'd love to fly someday, however I will also be applying to every C130/KC-135/C17 unit that I can as the competition for slots here is fierce.
threeighteen is offline  
Old 10-26-2011, 09:05 AM
  #5  
Prime Minister/Moderator
 
rickair7777's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,375
Default

The military will essentially always allow an enlisted man to do a commissioning program at any time, even if they are in a high-demand MOS.

I have never once heard of any enlisted person being told that their skill was too critical to allow them to go officer.
rickair7777 is offline  
Old 11-03-2011, 04:54 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
AirGunner's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2011
Position: King of somewhere hot....
Posts: 151
Default

Originally Posted by threeighteen View Post
If I enlist as a crew chief or some other mx position in the ANG right now when I'm still in school, can I be awarded a UPT slot once I get my degree or do I have to finish out the 6 year commitment? Can that UPT slot be at another unit?
If I was in your shoes I would wait until you are finished with school, then get commissioned whether it was Reserve/Guard/Active Duty. The Air Force will always be around, time dedicated to finishing your education may not. (Life happens after all.) If you were to enlist as other posters have said, you'll have to contend with basic training (a joke), technical school, and finally OJT when you get back to your unit. Add deployments into the mix once you are fully qualified in your AFSC. Realize, that you'll have to make up about a year and half (worst case) of time you could have used to finish your degree. However, it's not impossible to do though, if you are determined to finish your degree. Additionally, it's not as simple as being awarded a UPT slot once you finish your degree. If you can get a slot as an officer once you have finished school, you'll have to go through OTS first to earn your commission then go to UPT. Talk long with your family, friends, and finally your recruiter before you finally decide what you want to do. All the best
AirGunner is offline  
Old 11-03-2011, 05:44 PM
  #7  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,822
Default

AirGunner gives great advice. I was a tech school instructor for 4 years. Depending which airframe, you could be at Sheppard for 4-5 months. And as he said, getting your OJT/CDC's done will take priority. However, if that's the way you feel you need to go, it's still not a bad plan.
ERJF15 is offline  
Old 11-10-2011, 09:36 AM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 55
Default

Anyone here go to graduate school while enlisted in the ANG/AFRes? I have been asking around on Baseops as well. I really want to enlist as a loadmaster and hopefully go through graduate school as well. I just want to know if it has been done before and if anyone out there is willing to PM/talk to me about it. Thanks.
HawkJ2010 is offline  
Old 03-06-2012, 02:43 AM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
Default

Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
The military will essentially always allow an enlisted man to do a commissioning program at any time, even if they are in a high-demand MOS.

I have never once heard of any enlisted person being told that their skill was too critical to allow them to go officer.
Thank you!

Originally Posted by AirGunner View Post
If I was in your shoes I would wait until you are finished with school, then get commissioned whether it was Reserve/Guard/Active Duty. The Air Force will always be around, time dedicated to finishing your education may not. (Life happens after all.) If you were to enlist as other posters have said, you'll have to contend with basic training (a joke), technical school, and finally OJT when you get back to your unit. Add deployments into the mix once you are fully qualified in your AFSC. Realize, that you'll have to make up about a year and half (worst case) of time you could have used to finish your degree. However, it's not impossible to do though, if you are determined to finish your degree. Additionally, it's not as simple as being awarded a UPT slot once you finish your degree. If you can get a slot as an officer once you have finished school, you'll have to go through OTS first to earn your commission then go to UPT. Talk long with your family, friends, and finally your recruiter before you finally decide what you want to do. All the best
Thanks, taking this into serious consideration too.

Originally Posted by ERJF15 View Post
AirGunner gives great advice. I was a tech school instructor for 4 years. Depending which airframe, you could be at Sheppard for 4-5 months. And as he said, getting your OJT/CDC's done will take priority. However, if that's the way you feel you need to go, it's still not a bad plan.
Thank you for the input, and nice avatar btw.



Originally Posted by Velosprints View Post
I did something very similar. I enlisted in the COANG right outta high school. I served a full 6 year enlistment, and signed up for a second as a F-16 fuel systems tech. I applied to just about every Reserve and Guard C-5/C-17/KC-135 unit in the country after I graduated school, and was able to get out of my enlistment in order to switch components, go to OTS and ultimately UPT. (I switched from the guard to the reserves and got a flying job in MD) I believe that being prior enlisted could help you greatly in the interview process as well. It shows that you have an idea of what the Air Force is all about and it demonstrates that you have an understanding of what is expected of you should you be selected to attend UPT.

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions.

Cheers
PM inbound sometime soon, thanks!

Originally Posted by HawkJ2010 View Post
Anyone here go to graduate school while enlisted in the ANG/AFRes? I have been asking around on Baseops as well. I really want to enlist as a loadmaster and hopefully go through graduate school as well. I just want to know if it has been done before and if anyone out there is willing to PM/talk to me about it. Thanks.
Could work out well, could be hell. All depends on what field you're researching. If you have to deploy for six months during a major research aspect of your degree that you might not be able to make up for another year..... you get the idea.
threeighteen is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RVSM Certified
Flight Schools and Training
22
02-27-2009 12:04 PM
AZFlyer
Military
5
10-16-2008 11:03 PM
USMCFLYR
Military
16
08-28-2008 09:15 PM
USMCFLYR
Hangar Talk
3
08-23-2008 08:37 PM
cargo hopeful
Cargo
21
03-05-2006 06:12 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices