C-27's going away
C-27J Chopped in U.S. Budget Cuts | Aviation International News
So let me understand this, XXXX millions spent to purchase something that shockingly the C-130 could have done all along ? where do I get in on some of this contracting gravy ? |
I asked this before and now can't remember the answer - - but wasn't the USCG getting some of these aircraft too?
USMCFLYR |
No, we went with a Casa 235 variant, the HC-144A.
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg7/cg711/c144a.asp |
Originally Posted by Squawk 1277
(Post 1130653)
These are for the Falcon replacement, not the C-130 right? USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1130612)
C-27J Chopped in U.S. Budget Cuts | Aviation International News
So let me understand this, XXXX millions spent to purchase something that shockingly the C-130 could have done all along ? where do I get in on some of this contracting gravy ? |
Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
(Post 1130656)
These are for the Falcon replacement, not the C-130 right?
USMCFLYR |
The C-27 emerged out of the FUTURE ARMY CARGO aircraft program as a replacement for the C-23 only found in the Army National Guard. The C-23 (Shorts 330) was the replacement for the Carribou. The Guard got the C-23 in 1991 after the active Air Force got rid of their C-23A models in Europe. We acquired additional aircraft to round out a fleet of about 44 airframes.
The C-27 was a CONUS only cargo asset. It is not a military airplane in any capacity. It has metal fuel tanks! It has no military radios either. The C-23 was deployed to combat in Iraq for political reasons steming from the age old fight between the Army and MAC over lift assets. It quickly became a valuable tool for the Army filling a gap between the C-130 requiring no outside approval. We flew the aircraft in a tactical profile all over Iraq and suffered numerous casualties but luckily, no fatalities. She was the little plane who could. She was not only ugly, but slow and under powered too. We worked miracles with that plane to include flying it with NVGs with an expedient modification. We were the first to fly an Army aircraft with NVGs in combat. The active Army was so impressed with the asset that they piggy backed on to the Guard's acquisition program and asked for 100 aircraft for the active component. The AF freaked out over this and began a political battle to stop it. The Guard was originally going to acquire about 30 airframes to replace the C-23 which did not threaten the AF. The Army Guard got screwed and here we are. The Guard did get some airframes but I don't know the current status as I now fly HH60s in the Air Guard. |
Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
(Post 1130762)
The active Army was so impressed with the asset that they piggy backed on to the Guard's acquisition program and asked for 100 aircraft for the active component. The AF freaked out over this and began a political battle to stop it. The Guard was originally going to acquire about 30 airframes to replace the C-23 which did not threaten the AF. The Army Guard got screwed and here we are. The Guard did get some airframes but I don't know the current status as I now fly HH60s in the Air Guard.
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Originally Posted by Dizzy
(Post 1130770)
I have had it explained to me that the only reason the AF ordered its limited number of airframes was just to lead us to this point. If they had part ownership in the program then they could have a say in when to kill it.
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You can bet that some people in the house or senate made millions on this.
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