Saluting?
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 596
Ditto on the high percentage of quality kids (future Service members).
Watching high school kids strive to better themselves instead of play Call Of Duty was inspiring for me and gave me some hope for the future.
If I ever have the time, that is one avenue I will take to give back to the cause and help young ones realize what opportunities are in front of them.
There quite a few current and former military folks involved with the intent to 'give back'.
Of course the non-sense does ensue from time to time...
Shame.
Watching high school kids strive to better themselves instead of play Call Of Duty was inspiring for me and gave me some hope for the future.
If I ever have the time, that is one avenue I will take to give back to the cause and help young ones realize what opportunities are in front of them.
There quite a few current and former military folks involved with the intent to 'give back'.
Of course the non-sense does ensue from time to time...
Shame.
#13
Bracing for Fallacies
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
Posts: 3,543
Haha, yeah I don't blame you. The original post was indeed made in haste. My real concern was if I politely, but firmly needed to tell someone to pound sand, how should that be done without getting escalating the situation..and/or what reference could I give a reg Nazi to shut them up in a hurry? As I said, I have first hand experience with the CAP, and like any group some are chill and some have some have an alter ego that comes out wih the uniform on....I don't wanna have to deal with disgruntled person calling someone in my chain of command. Small-ish town and all, everyone seems to know everyone.
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 829
The original question is legit, but to go further than just say "no" is making much ado about nothing. In all my time in the AF, I've never known a CAP member to expect a salute much less question a military member if one wasn't received. To the contrary, I am pretty sure "impersonating a military officer" on a military establishment would not end well for a CAP member and they all know that.
Most CAP members are just happy to talk to military members.
Most CAP members are just happy to talk to military members.
#16
Block 30, at my old base we had CAP members, both cadet and senior, visit us all the time. Never, have I seen any of the senior members...even those who are retired officers demand a salute from any military member. In the highly unlikely event that kind of situation should transpire kindly remind them that AFI 10-2701, Organization and Function of the Civil Air Patrol, states the folloiwng regarding their percieved rank status as CAP members (I've underlined the important parts) :
1.3. Status of CAP Personnel. CAP is not a military service and its members are not subject to the UCMJ. CAP members voluntarily perform Air Force-assigned missions. CAP membership does not confer upon an individual any of the rights, privileges, prerogatives or benefits of military personnel, active,reserve, or retired. While CAP is not a military service, it uses an Air Force-style grade structure and its members may wear Air Force-style uniforms when authorized. Air Force protocol requirements do not apply to CAP members.
1.3.1. CAP Grade. CAP uses military style grade for its membership at the discretion and approval of the Air Force. CAP officer or noncommissioned officer grade does not confer commissioned or noncommissioned officer status. CAP personnel have no authority over members of the armed forces.
CAP members who are active, reserve, and retired members of the armed forces will be treated according to their CAP status when acting in a CAP capacity. The Air Force has authority over the CAP grade structure.
1.3. Status of CAP Personnel. CAP is not a military service and its members are not subject to the UCMJ. CAP members voluntarily perform Air Force-assigned missions. CAP membership does not confer upon an individual any of the rights, privileges, prerogatives or benefits of military personnel, active,reserve, or retired. While CAP is not a military service, it uses an Air Force-style grade structure and its members may wear Air Force-style uniforms when authorized. Air Force protocol requirements do not apply to CAP members.
1.3.1. CAP Grade. CAP uses military style grade for its membership at the discretion and approval of the Air Force. CAP officer or noncommissioned officer grade does not confer commissioned or noncommissioned officer status. CAP personnel have no authority over members of the armed forces.
CAP members who are active, reserve, and retired members of the armed forces will be treated according to their CAP status when acting in a CAP capacity. The Air Force has authority over the CAP grade structure.