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Old 08-08-2012, 04:11 PM
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Stiches, I wish I'd met you before indoc. Great real world advice. Could you PM me those how to make command tips?
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:30 PM
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Well, she is aware of what's ahead. I've had her read some threads in the AW "Spouses Corner" which really lays out the truth. It's sad and at times may seem selfish, but it's not about her for those few years. I have concerns, she's very close to her family and I see issues with that. But, I've asked her honestly if she wants to do this, and the answer is always yes. We want to give it a go, and if it doesn't work out sometime down the road then okay. It's not the end of the world. Probably just the end of my bank account.
You don't "give marraige a go."

If you're already thinking this, you shouldn't be pondering marrying her. BTW, it's not just your bank account she'll be entitled too.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:44 AM
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You don't "give marriage a go."

If you're already thinking this, you shouldn't be pondering marrying her. BTW, it's not just your bank account she'll be entitled to.
+1.

A man gets married hoping nothing will ever change.

A woman gets married hoping she can change everything.

The most important financial decision a man will ever make is who he sleeps with.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
+1.

A man gets married hoping nothing will ever change.

A woman gets married hoping she can change everything.

The most important financial decision a man will ever make is who he sleeps with.
This is why companies spend a lot of time and effort on rent, lease or buy options.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer View Post
+1.

A man gets married hoping nothing will ever change.

A woman gets married hoping she can change everything.

The most important financial decision a man will ever make is who he sleeps with.
This is why I should practice Family Law instead.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:15 AM
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This is why I should practice Family Law instead.
Certainly more lucrative than being a pilot.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:08 AM
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Going to be good...
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:04 AM
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Man! I can't believe all the cynical replies to Jones14s initial post. You guys seriously are a buzz kill. Proposing that he should not be absolutely thrilled and thinking ahead about airframes etc?... Whateva. He has already accomplished the hardest part, getting selected. The screening process is very detailed these days in an attempt to reduce attrition from training. Washing out of OCS? Possible, but most people selected for UFT have put in so much work already they're far less likely to fail out of OCS vs say the non flying types who've not been scrutized as much during the selection process. It ain't BUDS. And commercial/airline guys washing out of UPT? Doubt it but if you say so, ok. There are always special cases but in general the experienced guys have done better overall than they're peers. And 0 time guys drop pointy nose jets all the time too so don't think the prior flight time is too big of an issue. Lastly, how many of you current former mil pilots didn't have an airframe in mind when you got picked up for flt school? Don't give me the "needs of the (insert branch)" or "haven't really thought about it" answer. You know you wanted -14s since 86 when you saw Mav fllyin em. Everyone has something in mind with what they want out of flt school. What's wrong with planning ahead? Goals are what got you this far. During training your ideas of what you want will become more clear regardless of what you originally wanted. He will be dealing with plenty of "I'm better than you's" and "naysayers" throught the entire training experience so why dish it out here? Advice on how to start training and what academic stuff to focus on would be far more helpful. And sh#t, maybe even some success stories. At this point with jones's virtually 0 mil experience, a bunch of people quoting "washout ratios" and "sooo hard" and "long way to go" can be disconcerting and not really reflective of the likely chain of events to come for a new guy coming up the pipeline. He's got many months before he'll be in a class so why implant needless worries? Congratulations are due for earning a slot that literally thousands of people off the street are competing for. They don't just hand these slots out ya know.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:40 AM
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Man! I can't believe all the cynical replies to Jones14s initial post. You guys seriously are a buzz kill. Proposing that he should not be absolutely thrilled and thinking ahead about airframes etc?... Whateva. He has already accomplished the hardest part, getting selected. The screening process is very detailed these days in an attempt to reduce attrition from training. Washing out of OCS? Possible, but most people selected for UFT have put in so much work already they're far less likely to fail out of OCS vs say the non flying types who've not been scrutized as much during the selection process. It ain't BUDS. And commercial/airline guys washing out of UPT? Doubt it but if you say so, ok. There are always special cases but in general the experienced guys have done better overall than they're peers. And 0 time guys drop pointy nose jets all the time too so don't think the prior flight time is too big of an issue. Lastly, how many of you current former mil pilots didn't have an airframe in mind when you got picked up for flt school? Don't give me the "needs of the (insert branch)" or "haven't really thought about it" answer. You know you wanted -14s since 86 when you saw Mav fllyin em. Everyone has something in mind with what they want out of flt school. What's wrong with planning ahead? Goals are what got you this far. During training your ideas of what you want will become more clear regardless of what you originally wanted. He will be dealing with plenty of "I'm better than you's" and "naysayers" throught the entire training experience so why dish it out here? Advice on how to start training and what academic stuff to focus on would be far more helpful. And sh#t, maybe even some success stories. At this point with jones's virtually 0 mil experience, a bunch of people quoting "washout ratios" and "sooo hard" and "long way to go" can be disconcerting and not really reflective of the likely chain of events to come for a new guy coming up the pipeline. He's got many months before he'll be in a class so why implant needless worries? Congratulations are due for earning a slot that literally thousands of people off the street are competing for. They don't just hand these slots out ya know.
I saw LOTS of congrats posted.
I saw LOTS of good advice being given in every manner.
Needless worries? Mindset, physical fitness, and academics are not mindless worries. He has been preparing and should continue to prepare.
Prior flight time? Goods and others. Have experienced people dropped out? Absolutely. Some *experienced pilots* can't fly formation, get sick during aerobatics, fail at carrier Quallification for the Strike pipeline, or just can't learn the Navy way. Others excel in Primary due to the flight experience and then nearly all catch up in the later stages due to the type of training and experiences that civilian training provides. I found my instrument rating was probalby the most useful in Primary compared to other students who didn't have any flying experience; as long as you flew it THEIR way!

Jones has his head on straight now. Keep it there and he'll do fine just like many do every year.

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Congratz on the selection. On marriage....watch this first!
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