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DYNASTY HVY 08-28-2013 06:53 AM

The New American Militarism.
 
Came across this on flyingsquadron and just followed the google links and it's an interesting review .
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v27/n20/anatol-lieven/we-do-not-deserve-these-people

Btw has anyone had problems during the reg.process on flyingsquadron ?
No problem with the first part of the reg. but I don't get the second part of the process and I receive no answer to the e-mail I sent.

Fred

Spur 08-28-2013 07:21 AM

" a general as undistinguished as Wesley Clark "

The only truth in the whole article...

UASIT 08-28-2013 09:25 AM

Interesting article. Thanks for posting.

Downwind 08-28-2013 10:25 AM

Thank you for posting.

hindsight2020 08-28-2013 10:28 AM

Really good read. Thanks for posting.

EasternATC 08-28-2013 11:54 AM

IMHO, the essay was relevant when it was written, eight years ago. Now, not so much.

brianb 08-28-2013 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by EasternATC (Post 1472213)
IMHO, the essay was relevant when it was written, eight years ago. Now, not so much.

IMHO, it's more then relevant, it hits pretty close to home.

Billy Pilgrim 08-28-2013 08:03 PM

This was my favorite line:

"The Republican and Democratic Parties may not be identical, but they produce nearly identical results."

reCALcitrant 08-29-2013 06:13 AM

Billy Pilgrim....ding ding ding ding ding....we have a winner, chicken dinner! This is what mosts folks could look closely at and realize. The government is like WWF. Out front they "fight". In the back, they slap high fives and go eat dinner afterwards talking about all the dumb fans.

ForeverFO 08-29-2013 07:15 AM

I thought it sucked. The tone was patronizing, and some of the conclusions childish.


The most important contradiction, however, is between the near worship of the military in much of American culture and the equally widespread unwillingness of most Americans – elites and masses alike – to serve in the armed forces.
Despite our decent household income, all three of my adult children elected to serve. Nothing hacks me worse than the notion that "only the poor or the stupid join the military, as it's apparently all they can do."

FamilyATM 08-29-2013 02:20 PM

He is not the only former military officer speaking out on this issue.

..."For nearly two generations, no American has been obligated to join up, and few do. Less than 0.5 percent of the population serves in the armed forces, compared with more than 12 percent during World War II. Even fewer of the privileged and powerful shoulder arms. In 1975, 70 percent of members of Congress had some military service; today, just 20 percent do, and only a handful of their children are in uniform."... May 26, 2013 Karl W. Eikenberry

Karl W. Eikenberry, a retired Army lieutenant general, was the United States commander in Afghanistan from 2005 to 2007 and the ambassador there from 2009 to 2011. He is a fellow at Stanford, where David M. Kennedy is an emeritus professor of history. They are, respectively, a contributor to and the editor of “The Modern American Military.”

I think there is some truth to these articles. Semper Fi, The ATM

DYNASTY HVY 08-30-2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Billy Pilgrim (Post 1472495)
This was my favorite line:

"The Republican and Democratic Parties may not be identical, but they produce nearly identical results."

Sobering numbers come to mind .
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/25/politics/numbers-veterans-memorial-day/index.html


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