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Ftrooppilot 08-29-2014 01:13 PM

Fun Pilot Training Video
 
ENJJPT 14-07 Graduation Video on Vimeo

It amazes me that I flew the T-38 in 1964 and they are still flying in 2014. Great airplane - the Supersonic Tinkertoy.

2loud 08-29-2014 04:47 PM

T-38s with a HUD..... yeah, that makes me feel old!:cool:

iceman49 08-29-2014 05:39 PM

Thanks, that was great!:D

HuggyU2 08-29-2014 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by 2loud (Post 1715562)
T-38s with a HUD.....

About 8-10 years ago, we were at Laughlin with a 3-ship of T -38A models.
In the breakfast area in base ops, we started talking to some students,and came to find out that, if solo and the HUD goes out, it was an immediate abort to a full stop.

Wow. Couldn't believe it.

The dreaded "HUD-out landing".

USMCFLYR 08-30-2014 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 1715730)
About 8-10 years ago, we were at Laughlin with a 3-ship of T -38A models.
In the breakfast area in base ops, we started talking to some students,and came to find out that, if solo and the HUD goes out, it was an immediate abort to a full stop.

Wow. Couldn't believe it.

The dreaded "HUD-out landing".

Are the newer remodeled T-38s with HUDs still equipped with other attitude reference instruments (besides some small peanut gyro down by the right knee for instance)?

There sure were a lot of hand signals there that I wasn't familiar with :)
Didn't know the hand signals were so different between services too.

PRS Guitars 08-30-2014 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1715787)
Are the newer remodeled T-38s with HUDs still equipped with other attitude reference instruments (besides some small peanut gyro down by the right knee for instance)?

There sure were a lot of hand signals there that I wasn't familiar with :)
Didn't know the hand signals were so different between services too.

Yes, they have a very nice glass MFD and the same old standby steam gauges as well. I've never heard anyone brief a solo student to abort a takeoff for loss of the HUD.

USMCFLYR 08-30-2014 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 1715798)
Yes, they have a very nice glass MFD and the same old standby steam gauges as well. I've never heard anyone brief a solo student to abort a takeoff for loss of the HUD.

Sounds similar to my past aircraft then.
I didn't read Huggy's post to necessarily mean an aborted takeoff but rather any flight should be aborted and RTB'ed for a full stop (e.g. no continuing the solo formation flight).

Ah....the old comfortable steam gauge cockpit of the *older* trainers
(in this case the venerable TA-4J Syhawk so beloved by a couple of generations of Naval Aviators!)
ta4j-vt25-front-mod1 | A-4 Skyhawk Association

It's a new world out there (as the old timers said about us too coming up through the ranks) :)

I'd trade places with those young men and women in the video and do it all again.

HuggyU2 08-30-2014 06:14 AM

Yes: I meant to convey what USMC stated.
I also remember the students telling us the HUD-out approach was a "special syllabus" item.
I have 2 flights in the -C model... one in front, one in back. I wasn't impressed at all with the glass, the HUD, and the avionics. There were a few nice features for the IFF mission, though.
I later heard the history of the acquisition of the new cockpit. Such a shame they went the way they did. In any event, I much prefer the -A model over the -C. But I'm quite biased.

Tweetdrvr 08-30-2014 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1715810)

I'd trade places with those young men and women in the video and do it all again.

It would be great to be young again and full of **** and vinegar, but today's uber PC world and austere fiscal environment will be the good old days for this crop of young officers.

I can see it now, 15 years into the future.....

Two O-5 selects sitting around after the monthly sexual assault death by powerpoint mandatory training session remembering the days of annual SAPR training, then when they were O-3s, it went to quarterly training

Remembering the days when the O'Club had more than a two drink limit on UPT assignment drop nights.

Ahhh.....the good old days.

HuggyU2 08-30-2014 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Tweetdrvr (Post 1715836)
IRemembering the days when the O'Club had more than a two drink limit on UPT assignment drop.

You're not serious... right??


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