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Old 08-26-2016 | 08:29 AM
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Next summer I retire from the U.S. Army after 20 years. I am a UH-60 SP/IE and a C-12 IP/IE. I have over 5000 total hours of which 738 (without any sortie conversion) are C-12. I have about 410 hours of PC/IP time in the C-12 and over 3000 PC/IP time in the Blackhawk. I have my MEL ATP, 1st Class Medical, FCC license, CFI/CFII (ME/Rotor), and a smattering of other items on my certificate.

I have applied to all the Legacy, an assortment of cargo, charter, regional, and fractional. I have only received request for interviews/direct hiring from the regionals. I understand it is because I don't have enough total/PC turbine fixed wing hours or 121 time.

With that being said, I have no issue starting with the regionals, but trying to follow the threads on the regional categories is painful. There is alot of information I don't understand regarding ALPA and labor union requirements of the airlines. Or, the pilots ***** and complain about each others' company. Trying to ascertain which airline provides a good QOL, enjoyable atmosphere, or just plain fun to work with is also difficult.

From your military, straight shooting, no bulls$%t perspective, what do you think? Thank you
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Old 08-26-2016 | 08:56 AM
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The answer is easy, all regionals suck. Some slightly more than others. Go to the one where you can either live in base or has the easiest commute.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 11:00 AM
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If you're flexible, by all means live in base. In no particular order Skywest, Compass, and Horizon are probably the best regionals as far as stability, labor issues, and working for a professional organization without sweat-shop shenanigans or mom-and-pop cult-of-personality issues.

Envoy after those three.

If you think you need a quick upgrade, avoid Horizon.

Air Wisconsin has historically been a good company, but I'm not sure what their future holds you'd have to research that.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 11:13 AM
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I am flexible and live near to IAH which puts me with Skywest, XJET, a third which I won't consider, and a commute to DFW for Envoy. Thank you for the explanation of those regionals.

I am not particular to any airframe either.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 11:16 AM
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The answer is easy, all regionals suck. Some slightly more than others. Go to the one where you can either live in base or has the easiest commute.
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I was fortunate not to have done any regional flying but if I had to, this is an excellent advice.
I've flown with several new FOs from various regionals and it seems like Skywest and Air Wisconsin are pretty good regionals. If I had to prioritize, I'd go with the quickest upgrade (pretty much every regional these days) and commute (better yet, just suck it up and live in base until a major picks you up). Medical and other benefits won't come into play for you so you just need to accrue more fixed wing time.
A few rotorhead Coasties whom I've met have gone this route and they made it to the majors in a couple of years.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alaskanrenegade
Next summer I retire from the U.S. Army after 20 years. I am a UH-60 SP/IE and a C-12 IP/IE. I have over 5000 total hours of which 738 (without any sortie conversion) are C-12. I have about 410 hours of PC/IP time in the C-12 and over 3000 PC/IP time in the Blackhawk. I have my MEL ATP, 1st Class Medical, FCC license, CFI/CFII (ME/Rotor), and a smattering of other items on my certificate.

I have applied to all the Legacy, an assortment of cargo, charter, regional, and fractional. I have only received request for interviews/direct hiring from the regionals. I understand it is because I don't have enough total/PC turbine fixed wing hours or 121 time.

With that being said, I have no issue starting with the regionals, but trying to follow the threads on the regional categories is painful. There is alot of information I don't understand regarding ALPA and labor union requirements of the airlines. Or, the pilots ***** and complain about each others' company. Trying to ascertain which airline provides a good QOL, enjoyable atmosphere, or just plain fun to work with is also difficult.

From your military, straight shooting, no bulls$%t perspective, what do you think? Thank you
Make sure your clearance is still good and apply to the ISR contractors... Lots of Army pilots are making the transition...
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Old 08-26-2016 | 12:53 PM
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My TS is still valid. Thought about it for a moment but hadn't looked too far into that option.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 01:54 PM
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Start here: http://www.pilotdomiciles.com/

Avoid commuting if possible.
I would tell a someone to look at SkyWest, Compass, and Endeavor. You could take a look at Republic as well if they have a base where you live.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 03:03 PM
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Thank you, zondaracer. That is a fantastic reference for airline vs. domicile.
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Old 08-26-2016 | 06:49 PM
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I agree with rickair7777 about avoiding a commute and his observation about Air Wisconsin.

Someone mentioned Republic. I don't believe they have a crew base near you. If you consider Republic, then you might as well consider TSA, PSA and Commutair, too.

Good luck, soldier! (from a fellow, retired soldier)
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