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iceman49 12-05-2016 06:42 PM

125 billions in waste
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.c09920445183

rickair7777 12-05-2016 07:43 PM

Waste and inefficiency is inherent in almost any large organization, most particularly government. You can contain and control it but never eliminate it, particularly in a democratic/republican form of government.

The challenge is identifying and achieving consensus on actual waste. One man's waste is another man's requirement. Coming from the washington post, I wouldn't take it on faith.

Also in some cases the government could spend a dollar trying to save a dime.

Spike from flyi 12-06-2016 12:37 AM

The Air Farce could burn through that in one LGBT Kwanza Party.

Hank Burley 12-06-2016 04:46 AM

I would be willing to bet a large chuck of that waste goes into that waste of a country Afghanistan. Here's the latest example of an absolute joke of another failed project over there. And this is a just a drop in the bucket as a whole for the fraud waste and abuse over there. Yet, most of this goes unreported and the current administration takes no responsibility and virtually no heat for this crap.

Abandoned $85 Million Hotel, Apartment Complex in Kabul Guarded on US Taxpayers' Dime - ABC News

Vital Signs 12-06-2016 05:52 AM

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ha...ml#post2256836

tomgoodman 12-06-2016 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2256669)
Waste and inefficiency is inherent in almost any large organization, most particularly government. You can contain and control it but never eliminate it, particularly in a democratic/republican form of government.

The challenge is identifying and achieving consensus on actual waste. One man's waste is another man's requirement. Coming from the washington post, I wouldn't take it on faith.

Also in some cases the government could spend a dollar trying to save a dime.

Any military or civil service veteran has stories of the "perverse incentives" which actually encourage waste:

-- if your unit doesn't use all of its fuel allotment, you will get less next year, and maybe run short.

-- similarly, all remaining funds in your budget must be disposed of by panic-spending as the fiscal year draws to a close.

-- if you can expand the number of workers under your supervision (whether you need them or not), you may be entitled to a GS step increase because of the extra responsibility.

-- the only way to get rid of a lout in your unit is to get him promoted into a bigger job someplace else, where he can do even more damage.

:mad:

iceman49 12-06-2016 06:29 PM

Remember flying up and down the West Coast doing "training" so that they would get the same allocation for fuel dollars in the future year. Apparently we had actually used less than in the previous year. The annual CFI, etc etc ***

SayAlt 12-06-2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2257179)
Any military or civil service veteran has stories of the "perverse incentives" which actually encourage waste:

-- if your unit doesn't use all of its fuel allotment, you will get less next year, and maybe run short.

-- similarly, all remaining funds in your budget must be disposed of by panic-spending as the fiscal year draws to a close.

-- if you can expand the number of workers under your supervision (whether you need them or not), you may be entitled to a GS step increase because of the extra responsibility.

-- the only way to get rid of a lout in your unit is to get him promoted into a bigger job someplace else, where he can do even more damage.

:mad:



Great post (as usual).

TankerDriver 12-07-2016 07:13 AM

And the deficit continues to get LARGER...

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