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Old 01-26-2017, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolbrz View Post
Hobbit,

It might take some finagling but possible to be M-day C-12 guy. Which wouldn't be a bad idea instead of continuing with helos. I get the allure of deploying for the hours however I've done three now in pretty rapid succession so think I'd keep that at the bottom of my preference list.
I fully understand the lack of desire to deploy, even in a C-12. I REALLY do.

If you could get the MEFWQC at Mother Rucker, it is great training and much cheaper than the alternative.

One of our CE's went to ALL ATP's for his Multi, CFII and MEI. He should start instructing for them when he finishes up. A few airlines are also offering $11K tuition reimbursement in a program with ALL ATPs. (Just an idea)

Envoy took one of our junior PC's as well. He's out flying in the program now, but I think the GI Bill is used in there somehow. Someone may be able to dispel that rumor.

Don't for get to browse APTAP dot org as well. Some smart dudes with insight there as well.

Good Luck.
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Old 01-27-2017, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Coolbrz View Post
Gents,

I'm at a career crossroads and am looking for thoughts or someone to tell me I'm crazy.

I'm a 38 yr old full time AGR Guard H-60 IP with roughly 1700 TT of which about 100 is fixed wing ASEL. I recently crossed the threshold for my 20 year reserve retirement but have about 10 years until I could collect the full time retirement immediately (pretty much mandatory as I'll have to get out at that point).

I took it as a foregone conclusion that I would finish up the AGR 20 yrs but after talking to many folks, seeing programs like the Envoy RTP, etc it has me thinking about things.

Would it be better for me to take the big paycut and junior schedules now (I'm single with no kids) and make a break for the airlines with the idea that my pay will catch up, get ahead of the "hiring" wave", etc? Just seems given my FW time that at some point I'm going to have to pay dues and I may not be interested in doing that at 48+.

Two more points that may be relevant. I may be able to get assigned to a FW unit flying King Airs. Also I have access to a cessna 182 to build time for cost if necessary.

So...given that I am already eligible for a reserve retirement at 58 should I;

1) Just stay the course...good pay, get out in 10 years then figure out next job

2) Try to get King Air job as AGR and then that helps me transition somehow after at least 3 year commitment (could stay longer)

3) Jump now to a regional and start building seniority with the idea that pay and QoL will improve eventually.

I apologize for the long post but figured I'd get all the details out there and head off any obvious questions I could think of.

Appreciate any and all feedback or info.

Thanks.
If available to you, I'd opt for the C-12 transition and then serve your ADSO as M-Day while you are flying for a regional airline. Get the C-12 IPC and the FWAATS FWIFE course as well.

While you are M-Day, you may have opportunities for AGR/Long-term Mil-Leave to build points/retirement, but I wouldn't do that until after you land at a legacy airline.

I landed at a legacy at 45 y/o. I suspect you could be at a legacy at 45 or younger if you have C12 IPC, FAR121, and substantial FWTPIC.

Do you have a 4 year degree?

Good luck and feel free to PM.


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Old 01-27-2017, 11:34 AM
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Do you really want to be an airline pilot?

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