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Old 02-03-2013, 08:20 AM
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Back to the subject. Jungle is spot on in this being cyclical. Imperial Spain provides the historical model for comparison. The interesting variable in the USA will center around a culture of ignorance and insecurity and its inability to preserve what western european culture has built in this country. Detroit, central California, Atlanta, etc are excellent examples of what will continue to take place. There is no political solution because it is too far gone. The product of the public education system has reached fruition.

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Back to the subject. Jungle is spot on in this being cyclical. Imperial Spain provides the historical model for comparison. The interesting variable in the USA will center around a culture of ignorance and insecurity and its inability to preserve what western european culture has built in this country. Detroit, central California, Atlanta, etc are excellent examples of what will continue to take place. There is no political solution because it is too far gone. The product of the public education system has reached fruition.

The Count-Duke of Olivares: The Statesman in an Age of Decline by John Huxtable Elliott (Paperback - September 10, 1989)

Many Empires have waxed and waned, they were all ended by economic failure.
The education or ignorance was not really an obstacle in building an empire, but it becomes a problem when trying to maintain one. Subjects tend to leave empires if they feel it is not in their best interest to continue with them.

Perhaps the future will find that smaller groups of like minded people will find it easier to act in their own best interest. Maybe the super states will be replaced by independent city states following some of the earliest models.

Early tribes quickly found if their number became too large it was impossible to manage-too many conflicting interests.
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