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01-30-2019 | 02:46 PM

#641

OhSnapAF

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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver

Well, you can't be his arch nemesis. That title is reserved for The Shrub (and they deserve each other)

They are too closely aligned. Both banned from the union MB, both resemble crack smoking lunatics, both think they are gods gift to NJA yet both are total pariahs.

01-30-2019 | 02:47 PM

#642

NJA04

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Originally Posted by Macjet

NJA has guys making mid $300k in the small and midsize fleets. I'm willing to bet someone breaks $400k this year.

01-30-2019 | 02:47 PM

#643

GeeWizDriver

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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF

They are too closely aligned. Both banned from the union MB, both resemble crack smoking lunatics, both think they are gods gift to NJA yet both are total pariahs.

In their own, inimitable, diametrically opposed way, you are correct sir.

01-30-2019 | 02:48 PM

#644

OhSnapAF

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Originally Posted by NJA04

NJA has guys making mid $300k in the small and midsize fleets. I'm willing to bet someone breaks $400k this year.

No doubt, a 17 year captain, check airman working 25 days a month will do 400k.

01-30-2019 | 02:50 PM

#645

NJA04

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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons

250 is pretty achieveable for captains on the 72 now. All that soft pay adds up over the course of a year.

I should break $210k (without the signing bonus) on the 7/7 with no extending. $250k should be a piece of cake for someone on the 72 day.

My FO this week is kicking my a$$. He's clearing $22k+ this month (not counting the signing bonus).

01-30-2019 | 03:16 PM

#646

Finny McCool

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Jetlife, the other JL........ that's my guess......

01-30-2019 | 04:11 PM

#647

NJA04

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Nope. He's not on the MBs. Just a normal fun guy.

01-30-2019 | 06:13 PM

#648

OhSnapAF

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Originally Posted by NJA04

How many extended days for that FO?

What YOS are you making 210k without extending on the 7/7? Good pay and much deserved!

01-30-2019 | 06:44 PM

#649

Flyfalcons

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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF

How many extended days for that FO?

Quite possibly zero. I thought it felt high, but ran numbers for myself (12-yr 72 sched FO). Capturing two holidays this month, two tours that had day 1 early show overtime triggers, and three tours ending within the month that netted me 47 hours of flight pay (above the 12.1 mark), I'm actually not far behind that number myself. Zero extended days.

01-30-2019 | 06:44 PM

#650

tm602

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Originally Posted by Macjet

NetJets has to remain cost competitive against every 135/91k with a Citation/Lear Jet/GulfStream. They can't pay $250k a year to an XL Captain when every operator down the street is paying $85k and expect to remain in business.

My A321 has about $21K in revenue per hour. A Citation is about $3? Do the math. NJA can't pay me what I make and turn a profit. Smaller airplanes equal less $$. It isn't a Richard measuring contest. It's strictly economics.

Your 321 does not make the bulk of its money on management fees. Ours make no small sum in those. Of course this is also dependent on the 135 card holder vs a 91K "real" owner. Lots of variables, but comparing your Airbus to a bizjet for financial analytics is really not a road you want to try to lecture anyone on, though I do agree with you that $250K for a 7/7 bizjet pilot is a tall order. Some of our guys seem to forget that to even dream of that kind of money, a company needs to generate a successful business model and that means keeping some of the money in their company coffers. I'm more of a "better scheduling, more safety" kind of guy than a money chaser.