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Old 10-31-2019 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MWilliams
If you choose the in network plan you only pay copays.
True. But the point remains that if you had a family with medical issues you still pay more in copays for a family with medical issues. NetJets is good coverage for sure, but again I don’t think it’s necessarily a pivotal reason to choose employment at Netjets like it will save you tens of thousands of dollars a year.
Old 10-31-2019 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OhSnapAF
That has nothing to do with anything. You still pay deductibles at NJA. You just don’t pay a monthly premium. Medical bills are NOT 100% covered at NJA.
Maybe NetJets can send you a new hire package so you provide accurate benefit information about a company you no longer work for.

My point is that in addition to paying thousands in premiums a family could be facing max out of pocket approaching $10k for healthcare for your industry standard coverage. Maybe those working at 121 carriers can chime in on their family deductibles and max out of pockets?

The excellent coverage at NetJets isn't something to trivially dismiss if you have large medical expenses and a large family.

The main choice features no employee premium, zero deductibles , zero out of pocket maxs, no primary care physician designation... If you want to see a specialist... Go. No endorsement from your pcp. Copay of $20.

While it is wonderful coverage...a NetJets pilot makes less because of it.

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Old 10-31-2019 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LLWS09R
Two different answer. Depends on two factors A: Do you commute? B: Your age?

If you are a commuter and 50Years old or older go to NJA.
If you are a commuter and younger than 50 years old you could get to mainline. That’s a toss up

Non commuter younger than 50 go to Envoy.

If your goals mainline Envoys a great way to get there pain free. However if this is a second career for you and you have the love of flying in your blood NJA is a great opportunity.
Can NetJets not be pursued after age 65 retirement at the majors ?
Old 10-31-2019 | 06:25 PM
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Is Netjets even calling anyone lately? I’ve herd a few guys not hearing anything for over a month?
Old 10-31-2019 | 07:29 PM
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Old 10-31-2019 | 07:46 PM
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Can NetJets not be pursued after age 65 retirement at the majors ?
It can be, but it is a brutal start over for someone who spent a career at the majors. I've talked to a few older airline guys who said they wanted something to keep them busy when they retired. I explained to them that they would be way more busy doing this than they were before they "retired". None seemed all that onto it after hearing reality.

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Old 10-31-2019 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wankel7
Maybe NetJets can send you a new hire package so you provide accurate benefit information about a company you no longer work for.



My point is that in addition to paying thousands in premiums a family could be facing max out of pocket approaching $10k for healthcare for your industry standard coverage. Maybe those working at 121 carriers can chime in on their family deductibles and max out of pockets?



The excellent coverage at NetJets isn't something to trivially dismiss if you have large medical expenses and a large family.



The main choice features no employee premium, zero deductibles , zero out of pocket maxs, no primary care physician designation... If you want to see a specialist... Go. No endorsement from your pcp. Copay of $20.



While it is wonderful coverage...a NetJets pilot makes less because of it.
The coverage is good at NetJets, but there is a good reason for the flex spending accounts up to $3500 I believe. Orthodontics aren't covered. Most places that accept the VSP vision insurance charge way more for the frames and lenses than what is covered. $20 a pop to the chiropractor ads up pretty fast. A trip to the emergency room is $150 copay. A trip to urgent care is a $25 copay. Prescription medicine and dental both do have deductibles, though fairly small. Many presciptions also aren't anywhere near 100% covered. Our "free" healthcare could be way better.

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Old 10-31-2019 | 08:04 PM
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The coverage is good at NetJets, but there is a good reason for the flex spending accounts up to $3500 I believe. Orthodontics aren't covered. Most places that accept the VSP vision insurance charge way more for the frames and lenses than what is covered. $20 a pop to the chiropractor ads up pretty fast. A trip to the emergency room is $150 copay. A trip to urgent care is a $25 copay. Prescription medicine and dental both do have deductibles, though fairly small. Many presciptions also aren't anywhere near 100% covered. Our "free" healthcare could be way better.

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Everything you just typed makes it very obvious you have been covered by the NetJets plan for a long time and seriously have no clue what healthcare coverage looks like for most U.S citizens.



$20 copays add up? You really have no idea how good you have it.



A $150 ER visit is your complaint. Seriously? How much does that visit cost if you have a $6000 deductible and a $12,000 max out of pocket?



If that visit cost $40,000....and the plan paid 80 percent until max out of pocket was met....then goes to 100 percent.



$6,000 for your deductible and then another $6000 to hit your max out of pocket.



$12,150 is what that visit costs if you have the typical health care. Unless, you have the NetJets coverage... Then it is only $150 for the entire visit. But hey.... It could be better.





Disclaimer... I do understand there are serious problems with billing if a doctor/lab/imaging is out of network and you didn't know it

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Old 10-31-2019 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by wankel7
Everything you just typed makes it very obvious you have been covered by the NetJets plan for a long time and seriously have no clue what healthcare coverage looks like for most U.S citizens.



$20 copays add up? You really have no idea how good you have it.



A $150 ER visit is your complaint. Seriously? How much does that visit cost if you have a $6000 deductible and a $12,000 max out of pocket?



If that visit cost $40,000....and the plan paid 80 percent until max out of pocket was met....then goes to 100 percent.



$6,000 for your deductible and then another $6000 to hit your max out of pocket.



$12,150 is what that visit costs if you have the typical health care. Unless, you have the NetJets coverage... Then it is only $150 for the entire visit. But hey.... It could be better.





Disclaimer... I do understand there are serious problems with billing if a doctor/lab/imaging is out of network and you didn't know it
I seriously doubt major airline insurance is much woras than NetJets. I'm not comparing against other businesses or 135 jobs. Even paying out $1000 a month at a major (unlikely) would be worth it with well over $1000 a month in salary difference in most cases.

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Old 10-31-2019 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jtf560
I seriously doubt major airline insurance is much woras than NetJets. I'm not comparing against other businesses or 135 jobs. Even paying out $1000 a month at a major (unlikely) would be worth it with well over $1000 a month in salary difference in most cases.

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You should probably keep your health care complaints to yourself when you are out and about.
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