Lol. Now moral lessons on what and who i should be proud of? Preach much? I’m making a limited statement on AQP as it relates to NetJets acceptance into the program.

I’m proud of the accomplishment. It’s far from easy and it was the culmination of years of hard work but many.


So far as the rest, none of that is really your concern anymore. Staying in ones lane comes to mind.

Hey Bartender, this is an internet message board. It’s all one big happy lane. If I want to make a comment I can, if you want to make a comment feel free, it’s all good.

Well then... tell us where you work now and we’ll be happy to drive down your street.

Dude I have invited you to PM when you are in the NoCal area for a little surf or ski. Well I’ll still meet with ya but give me a little more time before those activities. Got 3 more months before I can walk without a little help after the old knee surgery. They tell me 12 months before back to normal...

Don’t suppose anyone has been contacted yet after the new hiring mins were announced?

Not yet. Still waiting. Sent in my app on Saturday as soon as the new mins went into effect.

Also, anybody knows what the next step would be if selected? Email, phone call?

And just curious, what planes are new hires getting assigned? And when do they let you know about that?

Since the November class all but one have gone to the phenom. There was one XLS, that pilot was too tall for the phenom. In the past year new hires have been put into the phenom, XLS, sovereign and latitude. You will get your aircraft assignment on the last day of basic indoc.

Best of luck to you

Excellent!

Thank you!!

Just curious. How tall is too tall? Does anybody know the magic formula, or is there a general rule of thumb?

It's mostly an inseam size measurement. there are a couple 6'3" guys in the past 3 classes who got the Phenom and one 6'4" who 'fitted' out. Some 6'2" fitted out too prior. But leg length matter.

6,-4”, 32” inseam, fingers crossed for the Latitude or Sovereign.

It depends mostly on the length from your knee to hip. When you sit in the seat with it all the way down and all the way back you can't have your knees touching the bottom of the panel in front of you.

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I am roughly six feet tall and sat in the FO seat in a Netjets Phenom and I could see how you could be cramped and feel a bit claustrophobic pretty quick. I can’t imagine being taller in that thing - you can’t move the seats back.

Now the Latitude was a different story - a definite improvement up front. If you are tallish (or heavy), pray that you get the Latitude.

It doesn’t matter what size you are. The Phenom 300 is uncomfortable.

Screen name #6.

What’s the odds that the Bartender is actually all the screen names? He is just punking everyone by arguing with himself.

Is one still a bartender when their bar folds? Alas, he isn't all the screen names, but lots of us did witness him argue with himself using several screen names like: FLYLOW22, NDeezNutz, CaFarFul, Johnny251 and others.

Once a Bartender always a Bartender.

Mark the post. He’s back.

Just couldn’t stay away I suppose.

Our “little” NetJets/Phenom hating Alaska Airlines pilot is back!

[QUOTE=Retractable;2971173]Mark the post. He’s back.

Just couldn’t stay away I suppose.


Feels like your looking in a mirror, huh.............

[QUOTE=IamGroot;2971205]Nah.

More like Groundhog Day...

Only I keep seeing the bitter former employee that only has himself to blame for coming here prior to ejecting for Virgin, another bitter former employee who’s his surfing wingman, another self absorb fellow who thinks biting the hand that feeds him will somehow pay dividends and you... who doesn’t care about too much except taking shots at one person in particular.... which is pointless and always has been.

[QUOTE=IamGroot;2971205]Nah.

More like Groundhog Day...

Only I keep seeing the bitter former employee that only has himself to blame for coming here prior to ejecting for Virgin, another bitter former employee who’s his surfing wingman, another self absorb fellow who thinks biting the hand that feeds him will somehow pay dividends and you... who doesn’t care about too much except taking shots at one person in particular.... which is pointless and always has been.

This thread is about NetJets new hiring minimums.

Try and keep up gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Retractable;2971250]you just quoted yourself?

Staying on topic is very important, we can all agree to that. Trying to make yourself out as a victim in this whole thing is absolutely untrue. You like to throw out insults then when they are volleyed back you look around saying what did I do?!? That’s not how it works. Your statement above is full of insults then you say we should stay on topic. Stop the insults and maybe people stay on topic. Is this how an owner of a bar would act to complaints about his/her facility? If they did it would surely go out of business.

In regards to hiring mins, yes they are lowered. The supply is going to get tighter so they need to widen the net a bit. Not the first time they have to widen the net. Back in the day all one needed was a little AirNet time in a Seneca and they were competitive. If you don’t believe me go ask anyone hired in the 90s about what they did before NJA.

He also loves throwing insults, then reporting posts and claiming to be a poor innocent victim. I would expect literally nothing less from him.

And I’m pretty sure his business did fold...

You're going to be a tight fit in the Phenom. ASAP try one on for size. Don't be like the SIC I had once who informed me if we had to do a crosswind landing I'd have to do it because the yoke hit his knee when he put in aileron :eek:

Min Rest would still never be able to fit his head inside still to this day.

Mark one up to head size.

He flies a “big plane” now. Vroom vroom.

[QUOTE=DH2time;2971327]What exactly do you have to contribute to the conversation directly? Or are you offering a glancy blow at facts?

I believe I may fit out of the Phenom. Thanks for your concern though.

Just know, that if they deem you to fit in the Phenom, that is the airplane you are going to be assigned if that is where they need pilots. Guys have been fired trying to fit out. And even if you fit, it will be uncomfortable.

Really? Who was fired?

There are the insults that don’t keep the convo on track. I believe you wanted us to keep the convo on topic and how does your comment above do that? I offer more than a glancing blow of the facts, you may not like my perspective but it is just as valid as yours.

I had heard of I believe a new hire who was in initial for it. If they deem you “fitable” in the Phenom and you try to prove otherwise, it’s not gonna go well.

That’s his defense mechanism. He has trouble providing factual and meaningful substance to a conversation. I feel for him though, it must be hard living in a world where factual information is so readily available, and all he wants to do is to try and recruit applicants with hilarious rhetoric.

Stop being such a drama queen marky marky.

There’s a very objective process for a FIT test. A pilot either fits or doesn’t. If the pilot doesn’t fit, they go to a larger cockpit fleet.

All you try and do is spread FUD because you’re a bitter little man that made the decision under free volition to come here and then leave thinking you were super cunning in doing so.

It’s ashamed that Alaska seems to be mired down in pre merger lack luster performance and that you’ve decided to tie tour bridle to that horse... but... it’s always greener on the other side, right?

Great fertilizer from those ponies.

What a disservice to aviation your information provides. You went from being an ambassador of aviation to one who is perpetually negative and attacking. I’d say it’s below you but that’s pretty short.

“I had heard”

A favorite saying of gossipy wash women.

You haven’t worked at NetJets for years. Everything you have to offer regarding NetJets is, at best, completely outdated, pure opinion at that and third hand info at best.

And you’re butthurt at NetJets for nothing they did to you... you’re angry at your decisions because you believe at your core that you deserve more, that you’re entitled to everything simply because you think so.

How Millennial.

Aviation is hard work. If you want playboy lifestyle for nothing simply because you showed up, you picked the wrong career.

No aviation company is perfect, they all come with pros and cons. One only needs to read over the threads at Alaska to see what I mean... far from perfect. Your choice. Your future.

And we wish you luck.

That being said... your negative obsession for NetJets years later is troubling on many levels.

I tuned out after that. I spoke directly to someone that knows at NetJets and it seems like a straight forward process of measurements.

I understand the 7/7 schedule is essentially standard, how long does it take a new hire to get the CC52 schedule?

Also, looking for the costs of a family healthcare plan and does NJ offer any type of parental leave?

You can tune out. It was echoed on this forum in one of the threads. If I can find it I will.

CC52 is a bit more junior now in the small cabin fleets with so many chasing the FDP pay, but it varies by fleet and can be quite random. I've heard of some getting it their first year, bit that doesn't mean they will be able to hold it forever. We have a flush bid in June or July for the period that runs from October through The end of January. If you can hold it on that bid you can't get bumped until the next flush bid a year later. Sometimes pilots will voluntarily drop off it and it becomes available on one of the next bids. For your information, it is exceedingly senior on some other fleets. It is about 15 years or so of seniority to hold it as an SIC on the Global currently.

Family healthcare costs are amazing at NetJets. There are 4 options. Option 1 is no cost (outside of copays) as long as you stay in network. Option 2 gives you access to pretty much any doctor, bit has a deductible, but not a huge one. I believe option 3 is the HSA with a much larger deductible and option 4 they will pay you one or two thousand to decline the insurance- probably almost never taken since our insurance is very good.

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Healthcare is premium-free. There is an EPO plan that provides great coverage in-network only, and a PPO that provides good coverage whether in network or out. Leave is available through FMLA.