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11-06-2009, 05:39 AM

#111

FL510

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Originally Posted by UCLAbruins

I'm with you on that, some guys forgot what the notion of retirement is.... I commented on this last year and got beat up...

I know 3 guys with young families affected by this, one guy (good friend and neighbor) just had a baby, his third child, his last rotation starts on December 25th ... flew with a 64 year old captain last month, he said " I'm going to give it 3 more years and see how I feel".

I know I'm going to get flamed for this post, but that's OK

You'll get no argument from me. I'm with ya! How about the full time air traffic controllers flying contract on the side? I personally know of 3 senior controllers flying right seat contract while several very experienced unemployed pilots are struggling to take care of their families.....on the same airport!!!

11-06-2009, 06:35 AM

#112

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Originally Posted by Sandhawk

Too bad that GW didn't include the rest of aviation (91k + 135) in the Age 65 rule. Get rid of the geriatric ex-airline baggage and all would be well at the fractionals............

Though I'm in a position to benefit from a retirement age for 91k/135, I have to disagree. Whether it was perceived or real, demand was the reason the fractionals were hiring. If the old guys were forced out, more young guys would have been hired. NJA, Shares, Flex, Options would all have the same number of guys on the street right now. Now, if retirement became mandatory effective January 1, 2010, it would be another story. But it's not going to and it's really not an argument worth starting again.

11-06-2009, 02:34 PM

#113

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Originally Posted by wareagle07

Agreed.

I'd bet you have more supporters than you realize.

thanks man, last time everyone left me hanging.... I got it from all sides

11-06-2009, 03:04 PM

#114

johnso29

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Originally Posted by 747Flyer

'It's all about me'... isn't it....

I guess if you're 65+ and STILL flying then it is. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black, huh?

11-07-2009, 04:27 AM

#115

dudemize

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Originally Posted by UCLAbruins

I flew with a guy who was 70 and didn't take the early out.

He retired from the airlines in the good ole days and had a full pension. I guess he doesn't like his wife.....

11-07-2009, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dudemize

I flew with a guy who was 70 and didn't take the early out.

He retired from the airlines in the good ole days and had a full pension. I guess he doesn't like his wife.....

Let me guess, he didn't participate in any of the voluntary measures either.

When I come back and fly with these "fly till ya die" guys, I'll be sure to make sure they help chuck bags, clean and do all the other parts of the job. I'm not picking up any of their slack just because they're old.

11-07-2009, 07:18 AM

#117

flyguy37

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Originally Posted by amaineiac

Yeah I rode the bus the other day with a 65ish FO who was mad because he won't get unemployment when he is furloughed because of his military and airline pension. I feel so bad for him. He may have to sell one of the lakehouses. Oh and to the senior FO who said he was looking forward to getting a X fo spot after we all leave in front of 4 to be furloughees kiss my a$$

11-07-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy37

Oh and to the senior FO who said he was looking forward to getting a X fo spot after we all leave in front of 4 to be furloughees kiss my a$$

Anybody who wants to go fly the X which pays the same as essentially all other fleets , but works harder must be a little off their rocker.

11-07-2009, 09:01 AM

#119

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Originally Posted by RideandDrive

Anybody who wants to go fly the X which pays the same as essentially all other fleets , but works harder must be a little off their rocker.

Do you mean that fleet is highly utilized and therefor you fly alot and by that you mean work harder -or - are you saying that it is harder to fly the X than other fleets?

Best of luck to NJA guys/gals that could be furloughed.

USMCFLYR

11-07-2009, 09:43 AM

#120

BuckMurdock

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We have a guy who is an attorney that has stepped all over my contract flying. He just got his multi-comm last year, and now he is taking food from my kids mouths! I guess I should go to law school and steal his clients. People like this are a disgrace to our profession! Not to mention a liability to everyone else.